Is this Ebay seller problematic?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by lvhaidong00, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. lvhaidong00

    lvhaidong00 New Member

    http://www.ebay.com/usr/wal-martcoinshop

    I cannot tell from the images of these coins if they are original, especially recent high-end counterfeits are flooding on Ebay. One thing is that he's frequently changing his ID which seems to hide something. Can anyone take a close look of his coins? Thanks.
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "Wal-MartCoinShop"? Oy... without even looking at his listings, this choice of a username is rather distasteful and highly questionable to say the least.
     
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    I have to agree!
     
  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    "wal-martcoinshop"? Now, there's a name designed to inspire confidence and respect.

    The frequent name changes (four in the last year) might be a bad sign, but I tend to think that it just reflects a personality quirk. After all, the whole feedback and auction history is still there -- it's not like renaming your eBay account really allows you to run away from past performance.

    As for the coins themselves: well, I've looked at a couple of the US listings, and none of those screamed "obvious fake". BUT I wouldn't think of buying (say) a raw high-grade 1893 Morgan from a doubtful seller. Okay, I might, counting on Buyer Protection as a backstop.

    The seller does seem to have an odd mix of high- and low-value raw and slabbed coins. I really don't know what to make of it. And when I don't know what to make of a seller, I usually pass.
     
  6. jfreakofkorn

    jfreakofkorn Well-Known Member

    depends on you ..... his feedback apparently is 100 %

    w/ me that is OK but i do have to consider feedback that was left back ( from other buyers/ sellers ) to determine if i want to do business w/ the individual ..

    so as again, depends on you
     
  7. Savy

    Savy Well-Known Member

    I would stay away.
     
  8. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    I didn't see any that I could say were definitive fakes, but certainly a couple of them would require more in-hand testing. It's possible that the seller doesn't even know if any are fake, he/she might have bought them as genuine too.
     
  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I used to view that as a positive sign.

    I had a run-in with a seller who was listing a large number of very poor-quality counterfeits, mostly of commemorative halves:

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/please-help-stop-these-ebay-counterfeit-auctions.249020/

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ebay-safety-return-policy-and-a-counterfeit.248045/

    After several users left negative feedback about counterfeits, he took his FB private (which prevented him from selling). After a month or so, he came back -- with most of that feedback wiped from his profile!

    It's possible that it was All A Big Misunderstanding -- but a very Big one, as he sold dozens of obvious fakes -- and that now he's selling only 100% legitimate coins. They're still mostly commems, though, and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw eBay's entire operations center. I don't trust that the photos he is posting are the coins he's actually shipping; I don't trust his buyers to know whether they're getting real coins, and I don't trust them to leave negs if they do get fakes.

    Why wouldn't they leave a negative for a fake? Well, all the guy's auctions say this:

    And, judging from what I've seen on eBay and in discussions on CoinTalk, a lot of people will say "well, he sent me a fake, but he was apologetic and gave me a refund right away, so I shouldn't leave a neg or a neutral."

    In some "should I leave negative feedback" discussions, I come across as a bit of a hard-nose. This is why. By nature, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt; in fact, I left a neutral, not a negative, for the fake this seller sent me. But I've come to realize that I'm contributing to the problem by not negging habitual fake sellers.

    And, as I've said before, eBay no longer takes counterfeit coin reports seriously. People are selling fakes for months on end, I'm filing reports, and nothing is changing. You'll still be covered by Buyer Protection if you get a fake and catch it in time -- but don't expect eBay to shut the seller down. Not any more.
     
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  10. lvhaidong00

    lvhaidong00 New Member

  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    With 11 customers...wow
     
  12. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I believe the real Wal-Mart would appreciate knowing they just got into the coin business on the flea of the Bay. He may find out that putting Wal-Mart in his userid could backfire not only in negative opinion from potential customers, but also in hearing from the legal department of said corporation.
     
  13. lvhaidong00

    lvhaidong00 New Member

    How about this one? This seller has dozens of IDs and many of them are already banned due to selling counterfeits.

    http://www.ebay.com/usr/perfectcoinaidoo
     
  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Nothing says "made in China" like Wal-mart... Haha!
     
  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

  16. Miko W

    Miko W Active Member

    Why not leave positive feedback that says, "Coin was counterfeit but seller addressed to my satisfaction?" It's true, it gives the benefit of the doubt, and it documents the issue publicly in case others encounter the same problem. Two or three of those and the seller will be outed.
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    If a seller leaves feedback like that for a buyer -- a positive feedback, the only kind they're allowed to leave, but carrying a negative message -- it's grounds for removing the feedback, and a strike against the seller's account. If a buyer leaves such feedback for a seller, I'd think the seller could get that removed as well.

    eBay has already pulled most of the teeth from its feedback system. We aren't doing the eBay community any favors by pulling our punches against repeat fraudulent sellers.
     
  18. Miko W

    Miko W Active Member

    I leave feedback like that any time I have an issue, as I feel it most benefits other buyers without bashing the seller. It's never been removed to date.
     
  19. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Sam is rolling over in his Chinese made coffin.
     
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  20. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

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