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Here's a seated dollar gives new meaning to no drapery

 

Another seated quarter

 

Here is my best one

 

Did this come back "Genuine - Very Nice Details"?

 

This one is in the raw

 

PCGS AU-50

 

Not a bad thread to ressurect

 

Beautiful coin! What is the grade?

 

NGC 58 CAC, but I crossed to PCGS because I wanted an unscratched clear slab rather than reholder at NGC for ugly white prongs. However, it came back a 55

Disappointing, but not really a big deal to me.

 

Really? That's quite interesting considering CAC signed off on it in the NGC 58 slab. You should probably send it back to PCGS. Somebody made a mistake somewhere.

I would have emailed PCGS or called them and told them where that coin came from originally before it was cracked out and ask them to reevaluate it.

This is a good example of all three companies being contradictory towards one another and just shows that grades and beans mean very little.

What do you all think @vegasvic, @geekpryde, @Mainebill, and @Tomb, or anyone else for that matter?

 

I have a couple of thoughts. One is that PCGS graded the coin in the non-pronged NGC slab. I think they are deliberately conservative since they cannot fully see the rims. Secondly, I think they undervalue toning as opposed to valuing luster. However, I think it would have likely received the same grade had I cracked the coin out of the NGC slab and submitted it raw. I didn't do that because I did not want to risk that the colorful toning (natural IMO) might have knocked the coin into a details designation.

One should not assume that a CAC sticker will "guarantee" a cross at grade between the services.

 

Oh, trust me, I am aware of this^

I just want people to see a real life example of NGC and CAC making a mistake, or PCGS. They both cant be right.

From what I understand CAC at the minimum thought the coin was an A or B coin, so at least good for the assigned grade of 58 by NGC.

This is just an example of the inconsistencies between TPGs and why you should buy the coin and not the slab.

I imagine there is a significant price swing from a non-stickered 53, to a 58 CAC'ed.

 

True, but mine came back a 55.

 

I apologize I mis-remembered from last night.

I still imagine most dealers would price this coin considerably different in a plain 55 holder (or CAC'ed cause it still should) than a 58 with the sticker.

Not only that, you've lost a TON of ground on recouping value out of the coin.

Your grade dropped on a crossover, that's like $30. You have to send it back and hope for an eventual 58, so maybe another $80. Have to send it to CAC to be restickered, so $10 or so.

All because somebody somewhere got the grades and stickers wrong.

I'm not saying you are inclined to do any of that, but this should open folks' eyes to how costly playing this game can be based off of technical grades and other peoples OPINIONS.

I wanna know who people think missed the boat. PCGS? NGC? CAC?

This is a great example for anyone wanting to talk about TPGs and why not to rely too heavily on them. Even the green beans