Featured Eye Appeal of Circulated Coinage; One Collector’s Opinions Including Lots of Images

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  3. A very interesting article, and the photography was excellent. I would like to add that to a true collector it's not always the condition of a coin which is important but the coin itself, and the pictures in this article express this quite well.
     
  4. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Is getting a great coin at a good price a bargain? I think so. Seems like you are asking for links to good coins at a great price. I'd rather have the former.

    I consider at least half my collection to be "bargains" as I define them. The rest were bought at retail pricing, but with little to no premium for CAC. I wanted the coin and paid close to the asking price.

    What's your point?
     
  5. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Speaks volumes when you'd rather keep typing around the issue, rather than just present a few links that show everyone how and where you're not overpaying for CAC labels.

     
  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Tom, thank you for your article. It seems to have drifted from it ( post #1) to other discussion rather than staying on the subject. There are not that many well written threads that could be used for education and reference. Most of those who slipped into grading and CAC subjects, have detracted from the subject matter you so well documented.
     
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  7. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I guess looking at thousands of TPG coins and researching normal price ranges, checking for varieties, checking strike and toning characteristics, comparing similar available examples, finding the ideal grade you can afford, filtering down to a few prospects for the Type, and then making a financial decision as to which you can best afford and when to buy it. yeah, those things require no skill....
     
  8. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Sorry, I have contributed to that derailment. I hope that Tom continues to post example coins from his collection and the commentary, it is quite valuable. I didn't mean to make this a thread about me. Its so hard to not respond.... Serenity now, serenity now.
     
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  9. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Wow, if this topic somehow stresses you out, I second it, best you stick to slabs, stickers and any other help you can get, that will make your collecting and hobby easier. G4 CAC, at least I got a laugh, thanks for that. Over and out.

    PS. One of the more skilled moderators is welcome to move our discussion posts into a new separate thread, to maintain the integrity of this one.
     
  10. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I wish my circ-cam 1849 SL dime wasn't buried in the SDB - it is an amazingly lovely circulated coin that would illustrate so much here.
     
  11. RabidRick

    RabidRick Sardonic Devil's Advocate

    If it is a problem coin it shouldn't be graded in the first place. Of course, as you mention, that is a gray area (like with the coin below). I just never saw the point of CAC when I haven't ever seen a difference between them and slabs without. Some of the CAC ones look hideous IMO (don't get me wrong, I own CAC coins but I still think it's pointless).
    TPG's take all that into account. I would imagine that one would get graded. For a half and the location of the scratch I don't think it's a problem coin, just might bring it down a grade or two. If that same scratch was on the obverse right on Liberty's cheek, it would probably not grade.

    EDIT: With a second look, I have to admit I'm on the fence on that one. It is a good example. Still, I don't think it is that intrusive.
     
  12. Vegas Vic

    Vegas Vic Undermedicated psychiatric patient

    I think I might disagree with you here. I still have to
    1) find the coin.
    2) pay a competitive price.

    Look at the coins I collect. They are not ms65 1881s dollars. While I did buy some generic material that I posted in toned coins the stuff I keep, it is not found every day. And then after finding it I still need to get a competitive price. Think of it like driving automatic. I don't have to shift but I'm still driving and have to avoid pedestrians.
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Tom:

    Nice stuff.

    FYI: your 1897 S quarter is the scarcer variety with the centered MM

    Very nice
     
  14. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Yes, but aren't those mostly shopping skills? As far as the coin and hobby is concerned, your expertise is greatly aided by the slab or CAC sticker, leaving a substantial part of any analysis off the table. Your skill is picking a coin you like the look of and the size of the wallet you bring to the potential bidding war. You could be shopping for winter tires, for that automatic of yours. Call around, find the right size, rims, competitive price, a dealer that is in the same state, etc. Shopping skills. No?
     
  15. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Yes, I know, but thank you for taking the time to point that out. I have written more than one thread about the scarcity of the center mintmark 1897-S Barber quarter, including one about this coin when I purchased it raw and another thread with simple statistics incorporated into it.
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Sorry I forgot about your others posts.

    Agreed, very scarce variety.

    Personal estimate about 10% of total.
     
  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    This is a great thread. I think Tom picked out some very attractive circulated coins, and explained their strong points and reasons for appeal very articulately. It was very well documented, and quite to the point. Bravo!!
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I removed some posts that are stepping on the original thread. If you want your own subject make your own thread.
     
  19. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    But driving stick is so much more fun! Especially when its a 2015 WRX in Cherry Red.

    Agree with you about shopping skills, I basically was trying to say that with this post but you said it more clearly.

    Searching, Filtering, Selecting, Negotiating, Organizing, Record Keeping, Photographing, and even Storing coins requires skills. Since the modern hobby gives anyone access to millions of coins, the "shopping" skills are even more important than ever. @Tom B original post seems to me about the "Selecting" part. This is where valuing the original skin of a coin comes into play. Is a fully original coin worth more than a higher numeric grade? Does CAC add any value or not? Is a shallow scratch a problem, if so, how big a problem? If you find a coin pretty, but worried about selling it in the future where others may not value the toning as highly as you, do you take that into account in your offer for the coin? And dozens of other questions.

    My point is, some members may think buying a coin in TPG plastic is easier than raw to the point of requiring no skill. I agree it may be easier, and people like me use it as a valuable crutch (I mean tool), but there is still a ton of thought and skill that goes into selecting coins to buy. At least the way I do it anyway.
     
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