PCGS Coinfacts good or bad ??

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Sean the Coin Collector, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    I know they have a ton of great info on us coins and sale price, do they also have info of equal quality info on foreign coin sale prices ?? Also is it worth the 10 or so dollars a month to have it ? Please let me know pros and cons !!
     
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  3. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    clear your browser occasionally and you can use it for free. I have been doing that for a long time now
     
  4. Vegas Vic

    Vegas Vic Undermedicated psychiatric patient

    I pay the money and given the coins I buy it has more then paid for itself in my experience. If you only buy a hundred dollars a year then consider passing.
     
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  5. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    +1
     
  6. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    The trial was good enough for when I occasionally needed it, but now I am signing in as I find I want to use it more and more.
     
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  7. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I pay the money I'm a us coins guy I use it minimum once a week to look up something I may buy. Well worth the money in my opinion especially when you can have prices weights mintage figures. Etc right on your phone
     
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  8. mainer020648

    mainer020648 Well-Known Member

    Well worth the money. One of the things I like best about it is you see the last 10 auction prices, 5 PCGS, 5 NGC. Many people use past auction results as a basis for their purchases.
     
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  9. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I see coins at estate auctions all the time many times it's a good date in a series I'm not an expert in coinfacts is great to find the info on get a value and general diagnostics so I can feel confident bid on a nice coin that isn't in my major field of collecting its like having a coin encyclopedia in your cell phone. My only regret is not signing up sooner
     
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  10. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    I am considering getting it but i still can't find out if it has the foreign coin part or not ??
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's US coins only.
     
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  12. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    One bad thing is that the first value they throw at you is the bogus PCGS Price guide price. here is a coin I am looking to buy, notice how the Guide price is not relevant to the last 5 from PCGS and 5 from NGC. Only one example is near the guide price, and you need to go a few more grades up to even see completed sales matching what the silly guide price is for this grade.

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    So while there is a lot of nice things to say about PCGS Coinfacts, the images, the descriptions, the rarity info, the auction pricing, etc. The "Price Guide" price is NOT one of the key features, IMHO. Skip over that and eyeball the completed sales and figure your own guide price on the fly.
     
  13. robec

    robec Junior Member

    It looks like the average sale price seems to favor the PCGS slabed coin for this particular coin.

    I'd be interested to see what the NGC price guide says for this coin in this grade.
     
  14. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    With what I collect the price guide means little I love early coins trade dollars and 19th c proofs and love original patina and toning so you can see the same coin in the same grade and the toned original will bring far more often double or more then a similar dipped blast white example they figure a coin only on technical grade not eye appeal. Also a green bean will often make a difference in price especially on a early proof
     
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  15. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Price guides are always wrong when it comes to eye appealing toners. Like them or not (and I love 'em) coins with beautiful NT/MA toning always exceed price guide pricing.
     
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  16. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    NGC price is $230 and much more reflective of recent auction prices. I paid $240 shipped for a nice PCGS CAC example. Their guide price not reflecting their own listed coinfacts data is just....dumb.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What is called the NGC price guide, is NOT NGC's price guide. NGC merely borrows the Numismedia price guide.

    As for whether CoinFacts is worth paying for, I'd have to say no, for a couple of reasons. 1 - I suspect the auction info provided is probably biased in favor of PCGS. Meaning I suspect they pick and choose to present the results they want you to see. And 2 - why pay for a product that you can get for free and have a better product to boot ?

    The Heritage archives are free, and you can see everything you get with Coinfacts and a lot more besides, without any possibility of bias.
     
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  18. robec

    robec Junior Member

    This is true, but for those investigating the NGC site may have a tougher time looking for the Numismedia price guide than the NGC Price Guide. It is less confusing to them to just call it what they list in their menu.
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  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The point I am making is that you get this -

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    And this -

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    And this -

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    And this -

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    All for free, all in one place, and all at the same time, by using Heritage. So why bother using CoinFacts, and paying for it, when all of that info - the NGC price guide, the PCGS price guide, The Numismedia price guide, the auction archive results, the population numbers, and more, is right there for you.
     
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  20. robec

    robec Junior Member

    As far as the point you were trying to make I will respectfully disagree with you.

    You quoted this from me:
    I'd be interested to see what the NGC price guide says for this coin in this grade.

    And responded with this:
    What is called the NGC price guide, is NOT NGC's price guide. NGC merely borrows the Numismedia price guide.

    I responded to you with a photo of the NGC Price Guide page and this:
    This is true, but for those investigating the NGC site may have a tougher time looking for the Numismedia price guide than the NGC Price Guide. It is less confusing to them to just call it what they list in their menu.

    No where in my first sentence you quoted did I mention the value of CoinFacts, or the NCC, PCGS and Numismedia price guide compared to the realized prices of HA. I was simply asking for a comparison of prices for a particular coin, in a particular grade between the PCGS and NGC price guides.
    Your point with regards to my statement was that the NGC price guide was borrowed from the Numismedia price guide, which I agreed with, but also showed that if someone is looking for the NGC price guide it is listed as the NGC guide, not Numismedia.

    Your other point is a valid one, but has nothing to do with what I was interested in.

     
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Uhhh Bob - my last post, #16, had nothing to do with your comment in post #17.
     
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