Questionable Color Morgan

Hi all, new to the forum. Made my first submission to PCGS. My 1880 O Morgan came back questionable color UNC details. Very disappointed. What should I do? NCG?

Thanks

 

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IMO, NGC will reject it too, market unacceptable toning.

 

I would not try NGC.

 

First, welcome to the neighborhood!

I'm not sure if NGC would find it acceptable. I've had Morgan toners accepted by PCGS that were previously rejected by NGC (back in the body bag days) but never the other way around.

Chris

 

When in doubt, all TPG'ers will go AT

 

You might find this site helpful.......

http://www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp#characteristics

Chris

 

Interesting site. The author appears to have extensive knowledge. However, he brings up a couple of issues that seem unresolvable.

First, he says that one way to differentiate NT from AT is by knowing the history of the coin. I have seen any number of toned coins for which the owner states that the coin "has been in the family for three generations", or some variation, but the majority of the time, these these are considered to be "exactly the type of thing an ATer would say". What exactly would be considered reasonable and acceptable evidence?

Second, he suggests examining slabbed examples of acceptable toning, but then states that there are a lot of AT coins in slabs. If the exemplars are unreliable, how can one learn from them? I know one response will be a variant of "study thousands of coins and you will learn". But I would assume the TPG graders have done exactly that, and even they still can't reliably ID an AT coin.

 

None of that matters, people read too deep and over analyze the TPGs. It comes down to ONE SIMPLE thing....does the TPG want the coin in one of their slabs? If they don't like the look of it regardless of if the toning is natural or man-made, it will be rejected.

What I didn't like was the rims appear to be toned and the toning doesn't seem to progress as expected....it looks like it's "painted" on.

 

Thanks for the article Chris.