Is this a Details or Regular Grade specimen?

Huh???????

 

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Interesting possibility to consider. I think the bright areas on the rim are evidence of newer mishandling, like the coin being lambasted.

The good news is I was the high bidder for it but haven't paid for it yet. The way it reads based on the comments here I think I'm going to tell the seller he can keep this one for himself because I'm not buying what looks to be high potential for a dud. I could buy this one for $89.95. For this price would you purchase it or pass?

 

I disagree with the last three on your list being a better grading service. We have had this conversation before but we can do a little more.

I found these two examples of coins graded by "better" grading services. Let's see what people think. Please remember everybody these two coins are random examples I found while surfing eBay. They in no way are connected to anyone we know.

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Now I'm not the Jefferson expert but I have a feeling this is not quite a 65 with the facial issues. Maybe one of the guys who does this stuff can comment.

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What appears to be displaced metal that washington seems to be staring at does not look compatible with a 67 but again grading is not my forte. Maybe again more knowledgable people can help us.

 

Some people had issues with my actions because after being sold a fraudulent and counterfeit item after the guy refused to return all my money eBay pulled essentially an extra $300 into my pocket. I guess if someone tries to lie and steal I'm supposed to say "my bad I'm sorry you tried to steal from me and eBay forced you to give me extra money. Here is the extra money back good luck with the next victim hope all goes well.".

If people were critical about my actions I can't wait to hear what people say about someone buying an item and then taking a poll of opinions from a chat site about honoring the already made deal or not.

 

Just in case you forgot our last conversation on this topic

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/must-read-yelp-reviews-of-pcgs.250152/#post-1966973

 

When you bid on an auction and you're the high bidder you've purchased it. Most of us would then pay for it.

 

We should all bid and win something the OP is selling and back out of the purchase. I'm kidding but it looks as if the OP would do it.

 

I would not have bid, but I would pay if I did and won.

 

Maybe you should have asked these questions BEFORE you bought it!! Another reason I do no business on feebay. When selling a coin I try to make sure everything is properly represented and I know everyone on ct that's bought from me has been happy. I try to treat customers in all my businesses honestly and fairly. I also have no tolerance for problem customers which includes reneging on purchases that were not misrepresented

 

Well here's the thing. Normally I would have no problem paying this seller. However it was forgotten I once did business with this individual before (checked my records on Ebay) and was sold a cleaned coin (later got it graded) that I paid $149.95 for. I figured next, "oh not this again!" Looking at the latest coin I was ready to buy, later I realized the situation of being likely duped again. So I contacted the seller, explained what happened previously in doing business with him and asked for an extension on the amount of time I could take to return the coin. Instead of the 14 day return privilege, I wanted 60 days. The seller would not oblige. It only means one thing, the guy knows what he's selling me is a piece of work (the coin is no good and should be avoided) and frankly I don't want or need that. I'm not looking to be a bad buyer but I want to buy coins for my collection that will grade. It all comes down to this: If you fool me once shame on you, if you fool me twice shame on me!

 

I'm not looking to steal anybody's money so please avoid that thought.

 

1. The picture was posted. You saw it you bid on it you won. Now pay up.

2. How could an expert at your level have these problems? You were able to discern between a proof 66 Washington half and tell it should have been a point or two higher. How can you be skilled enough to tell the difference between a pr66 and pr68 modern coin yet not be able to see damage on a coin that everyone else who posted on this thread saw so quickly?

3. As to the morality of your actions we already have beaten this dead horse for quite some time, given your attempts to sell your third rate tpg coins at pcgs levels

 

Your opinion, but at least this coin grades unlike that other one.

 

I would say it's 4 names too long.

Ageed.

 

If you were the high bidder...then you should pay for the coin. You saw the photo and agreed to pay that price. If you refuse to pay, you are completely in the wrong. It doesn't matter if you have done business with the seller before or not. You had ample opportunity to do your due diligence before bidding and you did not.

 

Oh, the irony! The same guy who considers everyone on this board who counters his laughably self-serving claims to be sheeple, doesn't want to be duped, and yet has absolutely no problem trying do just that to those he sells to. Funny how all this works, isn't it?

 

OP, you owe the money, pay it. The time for due diligence was BEFORE you placed your bid.

Please don't ever bid on anything I might be selling.

 

I agree with the earlier comments that it was former jewelry, complete with rim damage and solder. I can't see this grading.

 

Also, the item was sold under eBay's hassle free returns policy.

"With eBay hassle-free returns, you can return an item in the condition it was received if you change your mind. Your refund might be reduced by restocking fees or return shipping costs if specified by the seller at the time of purchase."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-S-Bay-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557