To Slab or Not - 1909-S VDB

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by dallas101, Aug 25, 2014.

  1. dallas101

    dallas101 New Collector

    Every time I tried to sign up for PCGS 'Collector's Club', the form to send in your coins looks just too intimidating and I just couldn't do it. Should I take the plunge? I know I need to buy me a better camera and the tripod and all that, and sorry for the little orange food particle in the picture. This coin is really 'RAW' and I had been tempted to clean it but everyone says NO!!!! 1909-S VDB - 2.jpg 1909-S VDB - 3.jpg 1909-S VDB - 4.jpg 1909-S VDB.jpg
     
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  3. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Jeez man... you really need to start buying from reputable sources if you are going to buy coins of this caliber. This one is a fake.
     
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  4. dallas101

    dallas101 New Collector

    You gotta be kidding me
     
  5. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Sorry but no... wish I was
     
  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Educate us. Show us how you know. I know nothing about them.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I do not think he is. I cannot guarantee it, but it looks like a fake to me also. Hopefully you can return it.
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

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  9. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Mint mark and date too "fat" for the condition. Also the VBD is a known style for counterfeits, with the middle bar on the B horizontal rather than slanted.
     
  10. dallas101

    dallas101 New Collector

    Good thing I asked before I wasted more money. Now, let me go find that old Colt revolver....
     
  11. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Heh, just make sure it's not a non-firing replica ;) Just teasing
     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I tend to agree with the rest of the group. It looks fake to me. Sorry.
     
  13. jfreakofkorn

    jfreakofkorn Well-Known Member

    any key date(s), in my opinion, should be a slab coin ( those also have a chance to be a fake, but requires a bit more work in making so ) ...

    but buying a coin not in a slab, your are really taking a chance. unless you know at how, to pick out a fake from the real thing .... =0/
     
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  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    You are far more likely to get stung buying opportunistically (when a coin presents itself), rather than doing the research beforehand on the coin you decide to pursue. I'm speaking from experience, and plenty of it.

    Just one most recent example is when earlier this month I bought a very low mintage coin without first studying the die characteristics of that date, and discovered later that the coin was a fake.

    The sting of that purchase reminded me that I had drifted from doing due diligence before the purchase. Back to basics . . .
     
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  15. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    Buying a raw key or semi-key is like playing the lottery. You could win, but its highly unlikely. Slabbed is the way to go.
     
  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I think someone added the letters VDB to a 1909-S no-VDB coin. The fatness of the date, mint mark, and other lettering could be attributed to a worn die. But the letters VDB are just all wrong. The V is funky, I don't see any dots after the D and B, and as Numismat said, the B is too horizontal. Check out this page.
     
  17. giorgio11

    giorgio11 Senior Numismatist

    Not feeling the love here. And we are VDB Coins! Please buy CERTIFIED keys, especially the S-VDB.

    Best Regards,

    George
     
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  18. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

  19. dallas101

    dallas101 New Collector

    This ain't no non-firing replica, it's going down brother. Colt.jpg
     
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  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Sorry, but I don't see anything that says okay.

    The horizontal B (center bar) is a known characteristic.
     
  21. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Hopefully you have a sense of humor.
     
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