Jefferson Nickel RDV & ODV Summary?

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  1. OcalaFlorida

    OcalaFlorida Active Member

    I was wondering if there is any photo or visual reference for the Jefferson Nickel RDV & ODV listings?

    In trying to ID some nickel DDO or DDR a wexler listing it might reference as a marker RDV-006.

    I know on sites like varietyvista they have the other domination but nickels are blank.

    Can anyone post or point me into the right direction?
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    what does RDV and ODV mean ?
     
  4. OcalaFlorida

    OcalaFlorida Active Member

    Reverse Design Varieties and Obverse Design Varieties for example a RDV would be a 1939 Jefferson Nickel with a rev of a 1940 or the rev of a 1938
     
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  5. OcalaFlorida

    OcalaFlorida Active Member

    In some cases RDV are just called Type 1 or Type 2 Reverse.

    lincoln cents for example the 1988-D Lincoln Memorial with a Reverse Design #6 (LMRD-006). CONECA calls it RDV-006

    The 1988-D Lincoln cent with RDV-006 is called a TRD or transitional reverse design as it is supposed to have LMRD-005 (CONECA RDV-005) design.

    When they change to new designs sometimes there are overlaps creating cool TRD varieties like the Lincoln cent 2000 Wide AM or WAM.

    Just for Jefferson Nickel's I can't seam to find a general listing as to what the rdv are supposed to be or look like.
     
  6. quarter-back

    quarter-back Active Member

    The Jefferson Nickel Analyst, Bernard Nagengast, has pictures of some of the die varieties. There also have been detailed discussions about the 72 and 82 die marriages on various discussion boards (including CoinTalk if I recall correctly) within the past couple of years, but I can't remember where all of them are. Some had pictures of the differences. Try searching with the phrases "reverse of", or "obverse of" in the search box. If you do find a comprehensive guide, let me know.
     
  7. OcalaFlorida

    OcalaFlorida Active Member

    This is what I found so far after looking left and right, now just to look up and down... No real info on Jefferson Nickel transitional reverse design or even RDV Reverse Design Varieties

    1939 Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1938
    1939 Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1940
    1939-D Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1938
    1939-D Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1940
    1939-S Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1938
    1939-S Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1940
    1940 Proof Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1938
    1982 Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1977
    1981 Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1982
    1982 Jefferson Nickel with reverse of 1981
     
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  8. quarter-back

    quarter-back Active Member

    Nickel ODV and RDV's don't get a lot of ink. In most cases, you will find information scattered among conversations about other things.

    The '38 and '40 reverses are pretty to do on business strikes, proofs are a different story,

    There are supposed to be four different die marriages for the 1972 P and 2 for the '72D. I have only ever found one pairing - Obverse of 72, reverse of 71.

    For the P coins the types are Type of 1970; Obverse of 70, reverse of 71; Obverse of 72, reverse of 70; and Obverse of 72, reverse of 71.

    For the D coins Obverse of 70, reverse 71; and obverse of 72, reverse of 71.

    The 81 reverse of 82 is a new one on me. I've not heard of that pairing before.

    The 82/77 and 82/82 are pretty easy.

    There also is speculation as to whether the large star from the late fifties may be found as a transitional pairing, but I have never heard of one.

    Hope this helps

    BTW, don't know if you are interested or not, but there are a few years (at least 41, 46, 52, and probably 74) where multiple mint mark styles were used within a given year.
     
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  9. OcalaFlorida

    OcalaFlorida Active Member

    Quarter-back thanks for the info....I have a few of Mint Mark varieties .. I just finish my BU album and now need some fun varieties to look for while slowly upgrading to Full Step

    Not sure if I know the MM ones but I would be interested in that info as well... Thanks

    1941 Large-"S"
    1946 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
    1947 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
    1948 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
    1952 Large-"S"
    1953 Large-"S"
    1981-S Type 1 and Type 2
     
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  10. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I was going to ask the same thing.
     
  11. OcalaFlorida

    OcalaFlorida Active Member

    TRD - Transitional Reverse Design

    They use a new design transitioning into a new years design

    best example of a TRD is a 1988 Lincoln cent with the reverse of 1989

    WDV - Wrong Design Varietie
    s

    They use a circulation or business strike design was sometimes used to strike proof coins or vise-visa.

    best example of a WDV is a 2000 Lincoln cent Wide AM

    RDV - Reverse Design Varieties

    Just a list of the different reverse design used.
     
  12. OcalaFlorida

    OcalaFlorida Active Member

    ODV - Obverse Design Varieties or Mint Mark Varieties

    1938 Re-engraved Obverse lettering
    1941 Large-"S"
    1941-S Inverted Mint Mark
    1946 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
    1947 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
    1948 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
    1952 Large-"S"
    1952 Re-engraved Obverse ribbon
    1953 Large-"S"
    1953 Re-engraved Obverse ribbon
    1954 Re-engraved Obverse ribbon
    1979-S Type 1 and Type 2
    1981-S Type 1 and Type 2
    1990-D No Designers initials



    RDV - Reverse/Transitional Design Varieties


    1939 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1938
    1939 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1940
    1939-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1938
    1939-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1940
    1939-S Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1938
    1939-S Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1940
    1940 Proof Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1938
    1970 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
    1970-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
    1972 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1970
    1972 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
    1972-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
    1972-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
    1982 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1977
    1981 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1982
    1982 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1981
     
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