I have 2 coins, both 1925 15 Kopeks. I hold them in my hand, I know they are both the same year. I weighed them, measured them, and magnet tested, as well as tissue, and Ice tested them. They are both Silver and I am supposing Y#87 However one has a different front, I put red lines to the areas in question, here are both pictures. Please help me to figure this one out!! If you look at the bottom, the first coin has 5 stalk ends at bottom of ribbons, and the 2nd one only has 4. The lines I forgot to add arrow heads to specify what to look at, there appears to be something behind the "Rays" Like letters, or something. After about 2 hours of searching I found nothing, please aid me in this!
Different dies, there are 26 varieties known for 1925 15 kop. You can also see the difference in line above Й, on second coin it is slightly curved, while on first coin its more pronounced. You can find the exact die and possible rarity in A.Fedorin catalog.
my guess is that was from grease filled die. my Krause catalog does not list varieties for this date. but it says varieties exist for this type coin. Russia, 1925, 15 kopeks, weight- 2.7000 g. or 0.0434 oz. metal- .500 silver mintage-112,709,000 grade/value F-$3.00 VF-$4.00 XF-$7.00 UNC-$14.00 1925 proof, value-$225.00
Is there an online place to check that out? If so please send link. I am not well versed in Russian $$, I am good At German, but just recently got into Russian. (Didn't even notice the line above "N" one is close to edge and not as concave, the other is further away and has more of a scoop. I <3 mysteries!! In Re@ Yoda, I have seen images for both coins online about 5 for the one I marked up with red lines, and a ton for the other. Each site with the one I marked with red lines has no info on them and mostly just picture with nothing else.
I am off to work in about 5 minutes. what I would do is go on Bing and type in Russia 15 Kopeks coin varieties. then see what comes up then click on the links for that particular coin variety. I will try and help more when I come home from work at 1:30am tonight.
Well, with still no luck, all i have seen is that there are variations, but no one seems to have many stats. I check ebay and find out both of mine are variations, and a 3rd exists. The more common it seems does not have the background letters and looks much like coin 2, but the difference i saw was, they all had 5 stalk ends. So I am still perplexed, I searched for fedorin cata, and got no where. I will check back later to see if anyone else has luck, thanks again
I have 2 coins, both are different, neither are listed in any books or sources, other than "there are variations" I want to know why they are not listed. How many per were made. How many variations there were. Do you suppose a USA. 1909 s vdb penny should just be listed as 1909 penny? Not saying these are super valuable, or rare but how can I know without any info. As well, as i update my coin catalog, I'd like to list them separate since they are not the same. Preservation of history! There had to be a reason more than one die was used, and i hope it wasn't just to confuse me. Lastly I Cannot complete the set without having 1 of each.
How many Russian catalogs and online resources did you check before you decided they are not listed? If Krause catalog listed all the varieties for all the world coins, you needed a forklift to use it. It is listed in Fedorin catalog, as I mentioned. Here is a site that lists all varieties for a 1925 15 kop. http://www.fcoins.ru/catalog/catalogussr/catalogussr12777.asp If you can read Russian, and I`m pretty sure you can't, I`ll be glad to send you the excerpt from Fedorin catalog that describes in details all the differences for 1925 15 kop. There is no such data. You can only find how rare certain variety is, and its only by comparison to other varieties. The reason they used more than one die is because dies have the tendency to get worn or damaged. At some point they are replaced, I`m sure you`re familiar with the process. Mints don't use multiple dies to confuse collectors. I really doubt you`ll manage to find EACH variety.
Thank you for the list link, if you send the excerpt. I will translate it. I used the resources i have, i cant search russian sites because i'm in the USA. And your right i cannot read russian. Thats why i asked here I am pretty certain if a die is suspected to break eventually as they all do, they wouldnt make different ones. Ex. This coin has how many common minted compared to my two? I would think they would make multiple of the same die, unless purposeful variations. I like to have goals, so set completion is one, im optimistic.
These coins are not from modern mint with state of the art equipment. A lot of work had to be done by hand, including hubs/dies related tasks. There would be plenty of differences between 1st and last die for certain year. Don't get overexcited, these are images and translating would be a nightmare, I`m afraid. I know Russian and their numismatic terminology, being a collector myself, and translating that stuff is a lot of work. If you can't get around, send me a message, I`ll try to help.
Wow, that is gonna be hard unless I can learn to wright Cyrillic. I check out and translated much of the link you sent earlier. Can you tell me are the prices listed in Roubles, or....? If you can help, I'd only want a few specific things cause I can imagine the work that web page will take to dissect. I'd want to know mintage for my two, and a guess value assuming both can be considered XF. (I don't sell my coins, but it helps with my cata, and calculating historical price changes)
The first coin looks like die clash to me. Isn't there to E's in the left of globe and O in the right? Anyway, the first picture looks like obverse stamp 1.12 or 1.21 to me and the second picture is obverse stamp 2. The reverse stamps are impossible to say (but the varieties depend on the location of dots). BTW, if You look at the link (fcoins.ru), 1.12B is pretty similar to Your coin (also die clash).
