Double die 1970 5 francs value

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  1. Barnabus

    Barnabus Member

    Found this, wondered what value would be with doubling like it is. Thanks!

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    I do not collect error coins. I only collect non error world coin. So this is Something I am planning to sell. What kind of a value would something like this bring? (I have seen USA errors with higher mintages and less of an error go for a lot, but this is a france coin I am not sure if the same market applies)
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    looks like machine doubling ??? guessing.
    France, KM#926a.1, 1970, 5 francs
    metal- nickel clad copper-nickel, size-29mm weight- 10.0000 g.
    mintage- 57,890,000
    grade/value
    XF-$1.00 UNC-$1.25 BU-$1.75
    Krause values sometimes vary than the current market prices.
    not sure if your coin would add more value ???
    error/doubling/variety experts in here can tell you more. :blackalien:
     
  4. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Unfortunately, I don't see any form of valuable doubling on your coin. I maybe see some machine doubling, and some "echoes" around all the lettering, which are not doubled dies and would not usually add any value to this coin. As always, just my humble opinion.
     
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  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's not a doubled die. Keep trying, they're out there. Here's what a doubled die looks like...

    1972 Y 5D DDO1.jpg
    1972 Y 5D DDO2.jpg
     
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  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

  7. Barnabus

    Barnabus Member

    I don't understand why machine doubling has little to no value, I would assume mechanical failure inside of the mint would be a big deal as well. Seeing as how they deal in a whole country's currency, I would think they check these machines on a frequent basis to prevent these type of things. However I just saw the exact same error coin I have on Ebay. It's exactly like mine on all parts, minus theirs is not in as good condition. Can this happen like that?
     
  8. eddio

    eddio Well-Known Member

    the problem with machine doubling is that there is just too many of this type of error,,,i mean thousands,,cheers
     
  9. eddio

    eddio Well-Known Member

    here is one its a 1910 1 franc silver $T2eC16dHJG!FFm1BDJ)6BSWDggRvGQ~~60_57.JPG
     
  10. Barnabus

    Barnabus Member

    Wow, thousands. I guess I put too much faith in the consistent accuracy of the machinery in the mints lol. Oh well, if it does not add value, I will just toss it in the box of regular coins, and pretend it has no error, and cata it as normal.
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Barnabus, they're not repeatable, that's the deal. A die error is repeatable on every coin struck with that die. A striking error is just an independent event that happens when these planchets are struck under tons of pressure very rapidly, almost like machine gun fire. The collars loosen up from all the banging and the coins hop, skip, and jump, ever so slightly. A lot of these striking errors are indeed cool. Some of them are in fact quite dramatic. But they're still just striking errors. In fact, I'll go as far as to say, most coins have these striking errors, we just can't see them. Give us a powerful microscope, however, and those threads are all over these forums, as that's when they're apparent. Hey, hope this helps.
     
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  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Well thank you. They're out there. Just keep your eyes peeled. We found this one in a box of half dollars.
     
  13. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Here is a 1969 South Africa 1 Rand coin I found with doubling:

    South Africa - 1969 1 Rand DDR.jpg

    South Africa - 1969 1 Rand DDR - Fasces 1.jpg South Africa - 1969 1 Rand DDR - Lion.jpg South Africa - 1969 1 Rand DDR - Lion 2.jpg South Africa - 1969 1 Rand DDR - Lower Left Plant.jpg South Africa - 1969 1 Rand DDR - Lower Right Plant.jpg
     
  14. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Eddie - is that the coin that CONECA featured on their site for a bit?
     
  15. eddio

    eddio Well-Known Member

    i
    i believe it was a similar however this one is up for grabs for 100 plus on ebay
     
  16. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    I see a bunch of world error coins on Ebay but I do NOT want to pay $100+ on them. my coin list is very focused right now on others world coins. down the road I might want to start world error coins. :blackalien:
     
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  17. Barnabus

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  18. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Here is an 1876 Norway 25 Ore I found in a LCS junk silver bin (also with a doubled die.) I figured that the more examples the OP could see, the more it would help. (Also, just remembered I had this coin...ha ha)

    Norway - 1876 25 Ore Double Die.jpg

    Norway - 1876 25 Ore Double Die Closeup.JPG
     
  19. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Machine Doubling is not an expensive error, look at the 1955 Double Die, it is worth $1700 in XF, whereas the 1955 poor mans double die (a fancy name for machine doubling) goes for $1-$5. A die error is consistent, more than 1 coin will be struck by the same die, but machine doubling is pretty random, if there is a low-quality planchet that can not take all the pressure of the die striking it, than you will see issues on that coin.
     
  20. Daniel198630

    Daniel198630 New Member

    I have a question I just found a 1942 1 franc that was struck quite off center I have looked every where to see if I could find anything like it with no luck please help me
     
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