bad sellers on ebay.

And you tell that to him why?

 

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I have to say I am very surprised he was nice enough to let you bid the second time.

Let's see what happened:

1. He had a nice auction going, got a good price. You won, but an underbidder was well above $100 too.
2. You didn't pay, and wanted "more time".
3. He allowed you to bid in the new auction, but by that time some bidders either didn't see the relisted auction, or were wary of it, so he got much less the second time around.
4. He "traded them accidentally" and will not honor the sale.

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. However, no offense, but you cost this man money by your unreasonable delay in payment. Unless you had permission to win his auction and delay payment, you had no right bidding. No offense Kaosleeroy, but I think you are the bad BUYER in this situation. If I do not have money available, or plan on putting it on a credit card, I do not even LOOK at Ebay, let alone think of bidding. Its simply unfair to sellers to bid when you do not have "money in hand" should you win.

Just my opinion.

 

Someday, When you become a seller on Ebay you will understand you don't want buyers thinking they can pay for things on their schedule. The idea that a buyer can't pay for an item in 48 hours raises suspicions as to his ability to complete the transaction. So as a private seller you are not in the business of extending credit. OP should shop at Sears if he wants to wait to pay, Not Ebay.

 

to bad this happened. If you did NOT have the money to pay for the item then it is your fault. I work nights so I always let the seller know that if I win the auction that I will pay for it when I get home. most sellers give you a day or 2 to pay ...asking for 2 weeks to buy later is very unreasonable. come on dude... that common sense.

 

I would offer that you both are at fault in this situation.

You, for winning an eBay auction, then waiting 4 days for the seller to contact you to find out you wanted to wait 2 weeks to pay for the item. If you cannot pay for an item, you might reconsider bidding on that item. If you anticipate something "coming up" (and I fully realize that "life" causes occasional mishaps like this to occur) then it is your responsibility to contact the seller. If the seller isn't cool with waiting 2 1/2 to 3 weeks for payment, then at least they know about it and perhaps your bids can be withdrawn. But at least they know, and at least they feel like you were proactive in the situation...so if you do win, you will pay when you say you'll pay.

In the second scenario, if I were a seller with an item in an auction-style format that had bids, there is no way I would take those items with me to a coin show and trade them. I will not defend the seller's actions here, but given the circumstances, I think the seller did the only thing possible - refund your money.

From what you have posted, and keeping in mind you didn't post everything you said, it does seem like they tried to be polite and honest with you. eBay is stacked up against the seller in many situations, so it's a dangerous road to actually be honest with someone who can leave an undeserved negative feedback for no good reason. One person can kill your Top-Rated Seller status (this happened to me) and that translates into the loss of a 20% discount on fees...real money.

If I were the seller, depending on what you said and how you said it, I would have probably blocked you after the first adventure. It seems that you learned from this, as you paid immediately after the second auction win, but to place the blame entirely on the seller is a little irresponsible, IMO.

 

I think this is becoming an unproductive thread. The coins are gone, there is no resolution between the buyer/seller, and now it is should'ave, would'ave.....
The only thing productive could be to learn from it. Don't bid with money you do not have ( even if you think it is coming). Do not sell coins you do not have( even if you think they are coming). And lastly communicate, communicate, communicate!

 

Reminiscent of Detecto.

 

And that is the final word(s)

 

I know I cannot hold coins for 2 weeks waiting for payment. Retail sellers just cannot work like that. Only bid on what you can afford to pay for. If you cannot afford to buy for 2 weeks, you should not bid and wait for the next listing for something similar. IMO, you should be glad he canceled your initial purchase. You would have overpaid.

 

I once knew a seller that bought "before" he had the money and even "sold" before he had the coins.

It did not end well and I miss this fellow very much.

As stated earlier and endlessly, if you cannot pay then either clear it with the seller before bidding or simply do not bid.

But whatever you do, don't whine about the outcome.

 

Do you really think sharing private eBay messages with all of us is a good idea? I think they should stay between you and the seller. Why are you bidding on coins if you have no money to pay for them? Shopping addiction?

 

Both parties partly at fault, but if I had to pick one, I would pick the seller to be more in the right. Now if the seller relists these coins, get e-bay after him.

 

As many others have mentioned, both have blame. The most honest thing the buyer could have done after winning the item a 2nd time would have been to offer paying the original amount. Since the buyer didn't do that it's hard to have remorse for them.

On the other hand, the seller didn't handle it well by saying he traded the coins before the auction ended. Especially after the seller suggested the buyer bid again. You have to admit, saying they traded the coins was dumb (whether true or false). The seller might now have to answer to eBay, whereas if they would have said they lost the coins, would look better since those things do happen by accident.

 

Exactly WHAT could ebay do if they would bother to do anything at all??

 

They could suspend his/her account. That's probably the most extreme reprimand, but who knows if the seller already has a history. ???

 

What a load of garlic. Two weeks to pay for a coin? Missed your chance in the first auction OP. You blew it. I pay for auctions within a day. You's not got's the funds then don't bid. And then a chance to snag it in the second auction for a lesser price? Dream on. I'd block you too if I was a seller.

 

We live in an age of credit cards, overdrafts, lines of credit, etc., the two week delay should have been sorted out on your end, with a modern day financial tool. It's not the seller's concern. Take you out of the equation on the first auction. The bid behind you went up to $129. You potentially cost the seller up to a $60 profit over the second auction. You don't deserve the coin at the much lower second auction outcome.

 

I know that you have heard this several times on here already, it's worth it to mention again that you brought this on yourself......

If you can't pay right away, ALWAYS ask the seller in advance if he can wait for payment. what you "normally do", doesn't matter here. You brought this on with bad EBay etiquette. I would have been annoyed if you did this to me but I would have worked with you on the payment.

This seller decided to get back at you by not letting you own it at a better price. You should avoid this guy and handle things differently in the future.

 

When can a non paying bidder case be opened? 3 days? 5 days? A week? Then how long does the buyer have to respond? 24 hours? 3 days?

 

You won the coin at a low price, I wouldn't want to wait for 2 weeks either. Not only that, didn't you look at the sellers feedback score? Why do business with him in the first place?