Ancients: Group Lot Fun!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Whizb4ng, May 24, 2014.

  1. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Sorry for the delay. Here is the Trajan. I had to retake the pictures because the first ones I took were not very good at all. I haven't quite figured out the full attribution.

    This is what it was listed as on the CNG listings: Cyrenaica, Cyrene. Trajan. Æ 25mm

    Besides that it is:
    Obv. Laureate bust of Trajan right, slight drapery
    Rev. Horned head of Zeus-Ammon right.

    I do not know the full legends though.

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I think the full attribution is:
    Arabia Petraea, Bostra. Trajan. A.D. 98-117. COS 5 (A.D. 103-111). Laureate bust right, slight drapery on far shoulder / DHMARX EX UPAT T E, Head of Zeus-Ammon right. Kindler 5; BMC p. 59, 112 (Caesarea).
     
  4. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I sent the Augustus away to have the unattractive toning cleaned by someone with a steadier hand than me and am very pleased with how it turned out. One thing does worry me though. After it was cleaned it unveiled the bumps you can see in the picture. I haven't seen this in similar coins and am curious on other peoples thoughts.
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The bumps are interesting. I will be watching for the answer.
     
  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Such things are why I usually leave coins alone if I am ok with how they look. I am not a fan of cleaning them up if they are acceptable to me, since these aer 2000 year old objects. There really is no way of knowing what is underneath the dirt/patina once you remove it. I have seen a lot worst under ugly toning.
     
  7. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Normally I am in the same camp but I couldn't stand the toning on this one but I really liked the design of the coin.

    Personally I don't mind the bumps nearly as much as the toning but I am more worried it of modern make than a 2000 year old object and I would rather cleaning revealing the coin a fake than going blissfully ignorant for the rest of my life.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Are you making fun of me or what?:wacky:
     
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  9. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    Looking at the original "patina", and the result without, I'm wondering if the coin couldn't have been in a fire at some point :cyclops:
     
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  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i'm interested as well.
     
  11. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

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  12. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    This could be the result of fire damage or it could be that the coin is fouree and the bubbles are where the plating has blown away from the core. I am leaning towards the fouree.
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    If I were voting, I would go for fire. To know, the coin needs to be cut in half.
    Yours truly, King Solomon
     
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  15. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    The most common thought amongst forums I am seeing is that it is a fourree as I originally suspected but wasn't sure. Regardless I am happy with Mr. Spock and he will find his place amongst my other coins.
     
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