1964 peace dollar coin value?

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  1. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    LOL . I stand corrected , is it also on his web page .
     
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  3. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    You're a good man! ThumbsUp.gif
     
  4. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Did you have the same feelings about the 1975 Quarter?
    http://www.dc-coin.com/1grabenercoinpressmedallionsaleprice-1-4-4-1-2-2-2-3-2-1.aspx
     
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  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "An exacting and faithful rendition" that was in no way copied? Give me a break. If you believe this crap I've some waterfront real estate in Florida for you.

    This thread is approaching Detecto territory in its blind ridiculousness.
     
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  6. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Personally, I find all of Daniel Carr's work to be similar. Rounded devices with a grainy finish. Easily detectable if folks actually looked at the pieces with a discerning eye.

    Comparisons of actual Peace Dollars and Daniels overstrike alterations produce similarities in the lettering in that the lettering on a typical Peace Dollar is mushy and flat with no apparent relief. The ends or stop points of Daniels lettering, on all his overstrikes, always has a certain router quality to them with very few actual square edges.

    Of course, the original design is always there under the overstrike which produces some pieces.
     
  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Funny you should say that.............
     
  8. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    In some cases, it would be cheaper to use virgin blanks - in other cases it would be cheaper to strike over existing coins.

    In the case of the "1816" Bust Half Dollars, it was definitely more expensive to strike over existing coins since most of the ones I used were $40 to $60 each. Normally, I over-strike in a collar. But on these I broad-struck them without collar for two reasons: the originals were broad-struck without a collar; by broad-striking on them, the original edge lettering would still show afterwards.

    For fantasy-date issues, I over-strike on coins of the same type, even though it would be easer to strike on virgin blanks. There are legal-tender issues involved. I'm not claiming any of my over-strikes have legal-tender status. But for every dollar I over-strike, one legal-tender dollar is "consumed" in the process.

    And yes, I did check the Overton variety on every one of the Bust half dollars that I used. I also used "ugly" coins that had been cleaned. I did not use any coins that had any significant "eye appeal".
     
  9. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    The recent "1965-D" Peace Dollar over-strikes are generally less "grainy" than most of the other over-strikes I've done, including the "1964-D" Peace Dollar over-strikes that were made four years ago. Production processes may change, and future over-strikes (whatever they may be) may have a different appearance. Of the over-strikes I 've done so far, I think the ones with the best overall appearance (when compared to original coins of the same type) are:

    "1970" over-strike Eisenhower Dollar.
    "1963-D" over-strike Kennedy Half Dollar.
    "1965-D" over-strike Peace Dollar.
     
  10. Nuglet

    Nuglet Active Member

    Many posts on this thread are a perfect example of "those that can not do...criticize, nitpick, etc". Daniel Carr is doing something novel and interesting. DC has dedicated himself to making these ingenious coins, and I applaud him for it.
     
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  11. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Here's a good shot of my 1965D it's a beauty 1965D PD 2.jpg
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    That is about the most idiotic post I've read in this thread , if you can't add to the discussion don't post .
     
  13. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The rims on both of mine are a bit too grainy for me. But it is what it is.
     
  14. The 1964 overstrikes have done pretty well in the aftermarket. Not sure what to expect with the 1965 overstrikes. They will also probably do well.
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2014
  15. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    Although some people do nitpick at any and everything, I think many folks have a legitimate reason to disagree with DC and his supporters. I don't see much nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking only. I'm not on either side although I have said I prefer they didn't exist. It doesn't really bother me either way though. For what it's worth, I have said I admire DC's entrepreneurial spirit. I also acknowledge the quality of his work. I will also say this... if I could do what he's doing and sell them at the prices he does I would definitely be doing it.
     
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  16. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    It's certainly possible but I would be surprised if they did simply because the enigma associated with the 1964-D Peace Dollar does not exist for the 1965-D. I think this coin will carry the same weight as DC's other Moonlight Mint products. Sales have been a little lagging according to the # minted in his blog.
     
  17. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I would agree. I think the 1964-D has a special allure due to the history of the real coin. In some ways, it's "less" of a fantasy piece. I'm sure the 1965 will do well, as most of DC's products have...but I think the 1964-D is unique.
     
  18. Nuglet

    Nuglet Active Member

    wow.. struck a nerve there did I? I will post as I please, bud.
     
  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Think what you like , if you want to add nothing fine by me .
     
  20. Pcunix

    Pcunix Active Member

    Probably best not to. It's not a Carr, and may be a counterfeit (Carr's are overstrikes, not counterfeit).
     
  21. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    Add this post added what, exactly, to the discussion ?

    For the purpose of adding to the discussion, PCGS recently announced that they are going to start certifying certain tokens and medals. If the item is listed in one of the apporved reference guides, then it will be eligible for certification. One of the listed (approved) references is the "United States" section of Krause "Unusual World Coins 6th edition". One of the coins listed in that section of that catalog is my "1964-D" Peace Dollars over-strike. Also listed are two types of my "1975" Eisenhower Dollar over-strikes as well as a number of my non-over-struck pieces.
     
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