Who is still waiting on HOF Coins?

No, they are not like any other commem. The demand has been more wide, encompassing baseball people in addition to the usual collectors and investors. The shape is different, which makes it a necessary type coin for many collectors. The signed baseball coins (the real signatures, not the facsimiles) have that extra bit going for them, and that will also help the non-signed coins.

Whether that all means strong prices, I don't know. But they are definitely not like other commem issues.

 

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What I meant by "like any other commemorative" was that they were intended to be for sale for the remainder of the calendar year in which they are introduced, unless they sell out first. I would not compare them in other ways because as you mention, there are quite a few things about them that broaden their appeal.

 

True. What the US Mint is doing is disgusting.



I'm beginning to wonder exactly what the hell is going on?

 

It looks like the US Mint has left you holding the (reusable) bag...lol.

 

Too funny!

 

What is going on is they under anticipated the initial demand, they are having difficulty with production, and the "estimated ship date" portion of their ordering system is apparently not functioning properly.

 

Perfect example of how monopolies overcharge and under serve their customers. They have no competition, so despite their incompetence, they continue to make obscene profits, while their customers suffer. This is why, at least in the private sector, it is the government’s responsibility to break up monopolies in order to protect consumers. And, it is why, in the government sector, where there is no competition, the agency should not be a for profit business.

 

If they didn't have enough coins made they should have lowered the limits to 1-2 coins per address. Wait......they can't do that bc the big dealers would have to get hundreds of people to order for them. That would cost them a little more and they would have to wait a little longer to get them to the grading house. The big boys don't want 1-2 per address.

A few years ago the small buyers competed with the big boys. Something has changed and it's clear to me that the advantage is with the big buyers. Seems it started after the 2011 ASE set fiasco, remember 5 sets per address.

They call it "fair and equal access"....I can't say what I call it.

 

Fair and equal access should preclude sales at shows where those buyers have them in hand immediately. Every buyer should be treated equally, whether they order 1 or 100.

 

Perfect example of how big business has increased its influence over government to our detriment. This is just a minor example of how We the People get screwed, while big business profits.

 

Well that sux, my order 42926xxx is still on backorder. Damn this Mint!!!

 

That makes no sense - that's an earlier order! You should call them!

 

Let it be known that I have absolutely no problem with the US Mint making obscene profits which eventually get dumped into the General Fund to alleviate, hopefully, our tax burden.

What pisses me off is them selling stuff over the counter which should rightfully have been mailed to their online ordering customers first.

 

Fairer would be to only allow one coin per address for x number of days, then two for x days, then 4, then 8 and so on until sold out.

"X" might be 1-2 days, I think.

 

Calling may not be your final solution. I just did and had to laugh a little. So far I have been given three shipping dates over the last four weeks. The customer representative said they are all in the computer and she can't tell me which one is valid. So her answer was "It shouldn't be any later than some time in July" even though all three dates are in June. Wasn't this a great waste of a phone call?

 

Wow, people are acting like it's the end of the world just because a high-selling coin is taking a while to ship out lol...

Take a deep breath, and imagine a year from now, when you have your coins you got for Mint-issue price (well hopefully they don't take that long lol, but you know what I mean).

I'm still kicking myself for not getting some of the 2008 fractional gold buffaloes for Mint-issue price when I had the chance (I assumed, incorrectly, that 2008 wouldn't be the only year they'd be minted, based on the sales figures. If anyone from the Mint is paying attention, based on what these are going for now, the demand is clearly there! Mint some fractional buffaloes again; people will buy them!). I'm just glad I got an order in before these ones sold out. I can wait.

 

I personally don't care when it ships. It could be September for all its worth. However, the mint couldn't even begin to tell me which date had the best shot. So she invented another one a month later. She is reading her computer screen and has no idea how to come up with the best answer.

 

I'm worried about getting bad uncirculated gold. There's no exchange option with these.

 

Regarding private VS gov't sector. . You should see my phone bill. That's a private company and it isn't a monopoly anymore - it's outrageous what it costs and all the extra charges they add - no significant inflation in 8 years or so and they're charging 50% more. Or how about the Airlines - another private sector, had much fun on an airplane lately - do you fit in their seats - or Walmart, who pay their employees so little that we have to subsidize them with foodstamps. On the other hand, the post office and the social security administration are stellar. Ain't no one shoe fits all.

 

Short of monopolies, consumers also suffer when there’s too little competition, which is often the result of mergers, that were allowed by the government that big business bought. The SSA is not run for profit. The post office raises its prices twice a years these days, the result of a bought government requiring them to show unreasonable pension losses, so they can turn the operation over to their private sector donors. And, we all know how the bought government allowed big business to move millions of jobs offshore, yet still allowed them access to the US market. As for Walmart getting away with paying slave wages, well that's a result of the bought government breaking the labor unions, which lowers wages and benefits for all (union & nonunion).

Short of Nazi Germany, this runaway greed is the worst I’ve ever seen. Big business (and some government agencies, i.e. The US Mint) gouge consumers with high prices and low quality and refuse to share the wealth with U.S. labor, they'd rather lobby the government for no minimum wage.