MS 67 Abe Lincoln dollar, or lower?

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  1. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    I recently got this dollar, and it's graded as MS 67. I'm learning to grade coins, and it looks to be a lower grade. I was wanting second opinions on if this is sent to PCGS, it would get the same grade[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]


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  3. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's

    With a new dollar like that an MS67 is a poor grade I would think. I know nothing about these but that one appears to be in pretty good shape.
     
  4. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    So you think it may be higher, or lower?


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  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Tell me a little about that coin, is it a first day of issue, or from a bulk grade, P or D
     
  6. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's

    I am not really sure, I can not see the picture that well. I think there is an issue above the right ear but I can not tell.
     
  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    if thats coins, what I think it is, I can sell it for you, lot of money too, I know someone looking for ms-67, but only in base grade, hows 5000.00 dollars sound, but, it has to be graded by pcgs
     
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  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Rick - you are out of your mind. Get real.
     
  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    no, its true, I sold him 1 for that price, and I know there only 2, at that grade, I know he'll paid 5000.00 for it, I'm sure he doesn't have the other 1, all I have to do is send him an email
     
  10. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    I sent you a private message


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  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    heres the 1 I sold him, hes building a registered set with pcgs
    COIN INFORMATION
    Cert Verification #: 15084554
    PCGS Coin #: 409725
    Date, mintmark: 2009-P
    Denomination: $1
    Variety: Zachary Taylor Position B
    Country: The United States of America
    Grade: MS67
    PCGS Price GuideSM Value: $1,350
    Holder Type: Standard
    Population: 5
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Your coin is a Zachary Taylor Position B. I think we are talking Lincoln.
     
  13. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    this thread on a presidential dollar
     
  14. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Re-read the thread title.
     
  15. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    read the forth post, that should help you out, the rest is all about money
     
  16. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    I don't have any grading guide for presidential dollars lol... but I think the field alone shouldn't get this better than a 65. MS 67 seems too high.

    The devices are nicer than I usually see on circulation issues though. I get rolls of these to pick one out for my presidential dollar album and few have the devices that clean. They almost always get a few scratches on them. This coin doesn't deserve a 67 by any stretch of the imagination lol but at least all its problems are in the fields.

    I think PCGS would probably give this a 65 (haven't seen a lot of slabbed president dollars, but I have a slabbed NP quarter about this good graded by PCGS. Back when they were giving them out free to promote their online registry lol. It has more scratches on the devices than this but a better field; my guess is they'd about cancel each other out and give this about the same grade.). Maybe a 66 if the grader was feeling generous that day (like I said, the devices look pretty good, and it's a decent strike. The fields just seem a little too messy though.). I don't think they'd go 67 though.

    For a president dollar not from an uncirculated set, this is about as good as I've seen.
     
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  17. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I think so too, heres a couple of more images, compliments of Charles 1997 01.jpg 02.jpg 03.jpg 04.jpg 05.jpg 06.jpg 07.jpg 08.jpg
     
  18. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    With those pictures I'd definitely say 65 or 66. 66 is kind of iffy still IMO, but it's at least a 65. However I have seen 65's worse than this one, so 66 is not impossible. The devices are nicely struck and there's almost no marks on them; that will probably count for something.

    If you send this to PCGS would love to hear how it came back.
     
  19. robec

    robec Junior Member

    According to the PCGS population and price guides there are a total of 32 MS67 examples. This includes both P and D mints and Position A and B.

    The only price shown was for the second rarest example with a population of 2, a 2010 -D position B. Price guide is $750.

    The rarest with pop 1 is a 2010-D Position A. The 2010-P is the most common with a population of 12 for Position A and 17 for a Position B.
     
  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I wouldn't send it to pcgs, just keep it the way it is, pcgs is very picky, hard to get a 67 in base grade, with them, first thing I see, is the scratch in the field 03.jpg
     
  21. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Pcgs only has 2 total, for P & D, at ms-67, at least for the coin, the thread is talking about
     
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