The end of eBay coin reporting

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by rlm's cents, May 30, 2014.

  1. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Humans are the only ones that can lie, cheat and steal. Doesn't that speak highly of us?
     
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  3. Numismania

    Numismania You hockey puck!!

    Speaks volumes for a lot of ebay sellers, but there are still SOME of us who do take it personally, as that 'some of us' DO have morals....but ebay seems to becoming a 'moral-less' trading place.
     
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  4. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    You're right. I think the very fact Judith was able to send that email means it's her goodbye email, as in termination. She would not be saying the "I doubt any action will be taken" part if she was still going to be working for ebay. This was on a personal level, from a good person frustrated with the red tape and apathy that a purely bureaucratic entity has forced upon them.
    Same probably goes for Tiffany, who worked with Judith and sometimes responded to the reports in her place.
     
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  5. Pcunix

    Pcunix Active Member

    But the letter isn't from eBay, it's from the woman who lost her job.

    It's possible there is more to this than she says and that the end result won't be so dire.
     
  6. stewart dandis

    stewart dandis Well-Known Member

    Oh, you poor Ebay police !!!

    What cha gonna do with all that time on your hands and nobody to tell on......hahahahaha.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I did not notice that since she signed it with her eBay (ex) title. but you are correct. However, I have tried several ways and times to report items with absolute zero success.
     
  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    First will come the artificially intelligent evaluator of reports . . . we won't kike that one bit, but that won't seem so bad compared to artificially intelligent arbitrators someday deciding whether a buyer or seller wins an escalated case!
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Well I guess I will just report all of the copyright infringement to the respective copyright holders now. Maybe a few copyright infringement lawsuits, coupledo with Ebay doing absolutely nothing about it now, might open their eyes.

    I do see it as a bad long term decision. If enough people fund out the coins they buy from Ebay are fakes, I could see the word sprIeading to never buy coins on Ebay in the general public. They have tens of thousands of listing every week, and they are risking this revenue stream by this shortsighted action, as well as lawsuits. The previous method was not perfect at all, but at least let them claim as a defense that they were trying to stop it.
     
  10. Westtexasbound

    Westtexasbound Active Member

    Can I get the cliff notes version of the old procedure? Is this new direction suggesting that buyers will be able to take more action against sellers without seller recourse (if any) or just that more fake crap will be out there and buyers will need to be cautious?
     
  11. Pcunix

    Pcunix Active Member

    I definitely think you should do that. As to what eBay has in mind, who knows? There may be more to the story than we know and it may all shake out better than we think.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I never did understand how this department worked.
    Did they have any coin experts working?
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    More like something old. Instead of reporting from the special fraud reporting link where the reports went to the head of the line, you could give detailed reasons why something was bad, and were taken care of fairly quickly, you'll only be able to use the "report this listing" link in the auction. It doesn't have the proper options (so it can get misrouted), there is no place for comments or explanations, and it goes to the END of the line where they will get to it in a week or so, if ever.

    A lot more people are going to start getting stuck with fakes. There won't be any way to get the fake slabs pulled, and a lot of people may not learn for years they've been taken for a ride.
     
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  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Oh, yeah.
     
  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    From what I have learned, it went to a committee of eBay members that were trusted as experts and they would vote on whether a listing should be removed or not.
     
  16. Numismania

    Numismania You hockey puck!!

    Well, apparently you are the type who could care less about the 'health' of this hobby. I report items so unknowledgeable buyers do not get stuck. I do not consider those who report items as 'ebay police', but people who do care about the stature/health of this hobby, and some of the money being spent, well, it goes beyond the 'tuition' level. Sure, you could take the 'it's their fault for not knowing any better' stance, but it casts a pall over the hobby in general. Do you want people fearing that even your slabbed coins are counterfeit, both coin AND slab? The fake slabs on ebay are getting very good, and soon, they WILL get the fonts right (they seem to be getting everything else damn close to perfection), and when that happens, all bets could be off. I, personally, don't want to have to get my coins re-slabbed every time a new security measure is taken to stay ahead of these fake slabs, and at the rate they are improving the fake slabs, it is, now, an outside possibility that we just may have to really start to consider, IMO.
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    WTH did that come from? Why on Earth would you want fewer people watching out for fraudulent auctions?
     
  18. Pcunix

    Pcunix Active Member

    Maybe he has a little import business..
     
  19. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Guys guys guys, don't feed the trolls.
     
  20. sodude

    sodude Well-Known Member

    It seems you guys are drawing a lot of conclusions from a simple goodbye letter posted on the internet.
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Considering that none of the normal reporting links are working any more, I rather doubt these are wild conclusions.
     
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