Early Modern: Hungarian Denar

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Mat, May 19, 2014.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    A coin I got as a gift for my birthday.

    Never heard of the king, found a good read of him on Wiki. So I learned about a new king.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Corvinus


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    Matthias "Corvinus" (Mátyás Hunyadi in Hun.) (1458 - 1490)
    AR Hugary Denar
    O:+ M • MATHIE • R • VNGARIE •, Four-part shield with Hungarian arms (Árpádian stripes, patriarchal cross, Dalmatian leopard heads, Bohemian lion), raven with ring in escutcheon, annulets to sides.
    R: PATRON — VNGARIE, Nimbate crowned Madonna with nimbate infant Jesus to her right, K—P/rosette (privy mark) in fields.
    16mm
    .4g
    Huszar 698
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet => that's a very cool silver addition (it's in great shape with nice centering and all of the legend-info) ... congrats!!

    Curious => were you hinting for a coin like this baby?
     
  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Very cool, I also have a denar! It is my oldest coin with a readable date on it, 1545! Pretty similar design, huh?
    1545 denar obv-rev.jpg
     
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  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice one!


    Maximillion II 1575 ar denaro Madona on rev.


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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    This is as close as I get to having a Hungarian Denar ...


    hungryman dinner.jpg
    Hungry-man Dinner (Hungarian Denar) ... very weak, I admit (sorry)

    Actually, this is the only example I have from the OP coin's century:

    Lorraine, City of Metz (AR Gros)
    St Etienne Kneeling & Family Shield
    1415-1540 AD


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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Matt's coin shows a lot of shadowing from the reverse on the obverse. I'm not sure if it is clashed dies or just weakness from the very thin flan. The KB in field is the mintmark of Kremnica (Körmöcz-Bánya in Hungarian).

    I believe Matt's KP reading is a result of the obverse messiness. These are about as cheap an early dated coin as we see. That is why I bought my Ferdinand 1536 (probably the easiest ruler to find well struck?). You see a lot more Ferd's for every Matt offered. They are common coins but it would be hard to put together a year set all with Jesus' face clear.
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  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I had the info wrong, its 1488 and of course the actual mint name, as doug mentioned. Updated in my gallery, and the reference.

    Its a P, not B Doug :troll:

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    I too have a Ferd. Denar, which was my first. Was $12 a couple of years ago.

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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    What is the meaning of the P?
     
  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    K means Körmöczbánya & P is for the Mintmaster, Peter Schaider.
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    So the B in KB is not Banya but a man's name???
     
  12. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Ferdinand was Habsburg and that time the coin emission was different , they used only the name of the Mint-state like K-B :Körmöczbánya, or N-B,. Nagybánya, etc.

    Later are only remain the K-B.. or more later only B, Buda or Budapest B-P,
     
  13. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I think I actually have one of these as well but from Ferdinand. I have never gotten around to actually attributing unfortunately. It was one of those coins I bought on a whim and it has been neglected in my 'to be attributed' pile.

    I find this period really interesting mainly because I think the Habsburg family was really cool. Plus the coins are just so thin and neat. We always talk about the artistry on those tiny little Greek coins but the fact that they were able to actually able to produce these coins on something basically paper thin is quite the feat in itself to me.
     
  14. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice B day present mat!

    here's mine , of the "ferd" variety...

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    man, I'm glad cointalk saves a draft of you post while your working on it...I could have swore I posted this Monday. must have done everything but hit the post button, everything above this line was sitting in draft.
     
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