Cameo Sacagawea coins? Odd texture

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by PittsburghMom, May 8, 2014.

  1. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

    Just opened a roll of 2000-P Sacagawea and noticed that 6 of them look a bit different. Are these cameo coins or something else? They all have the same small die break in the Y of LIBERTY.

    Some coins are like this: 2000P Coin 1.jpg

    Some have a different texture:
    2000P Coin 2.jpg

    2000 pic 3.jpg 2000P pic 4.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2014
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    You have to post better pics.
     
  4. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    Can we see liberty?
     
  5. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Pics of the whole coin, taken straight on, will help immensely.
     
  6. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

    My new camera is supposed to be here in a couple of weeks from China. It'll make this so much easier. It runs through the Y and curves downward a bit on the coins.

    Yes, I can take some pics of the entire coin also. I was just trying to show the texture/shinyness difference by zooming in.
     

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  7. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    Can you please explain what you mean by "cameo coins"? Do you mean they have prooflike surfaces? From the pictures provided, I don't see anything atypical for the 2000-P Sac $1.
     
  8. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

    Basically, some of the coins are extremely smooth & reflective, the others with the die chip/break seem grittier and have a different appearance. You don't need a loop to see the difference.

    I borrowed my husband's cellphone to take some additional pics. They're uploading now. Hopefully they'll show up better without the LED lights getting in the way.
     
  9. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    There were more than 750 million 2000-P Sacs minted. Various die states and levels of repair can create areas of prooflike surfaces. That is a normal part of the coining process. The fact that some coins have shinier surfaces and others have more frost doesn't really surprise me, nor should it you.

    A true "cameo" coin (your word not mine) has nothing to do necessarily with smooth and reflective surfaces. "Cameo" is a term reserved to describe the difference in surfaces between the fields and the devices on a single coin. A coin is generally said to have "cameo contrast" if the fields are glassy and prooflike, while the devices are offset with a frosty or satiny feel. I don't see any cameo effect on either of your posted coins based on those images -- which is why I asked you to clarify in the first place.
     
  10. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

    Here are the extra pics:

    2000 P Large Photo 1.jpg

    2000 P Large Photo 2.jpg
     
  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    IMO, nothing special.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What you are calling grittier is an effect caused by worn dies, that's all.
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Both seem normal to me . The top coin like Doug said is from a late die state , where the die develops more flow lines as it ages , causing what some call an orange peel effect . Hope this helps .
     
  14. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's

    Not cameo.imho.
     
  15. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

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