Ancients => Dunce-cap? => nah, Kabeiros ain't no dunce!!

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Kabeiros ... ummm, or Cabeiri? ... I've tried my best to research both references ...

    => here is my second coin purchase ...... this is actually my favourite of today's two purchases ... I "welcome" as much coin-info as possible ...

    TROAS, Birytis. Æ18
    4th-3rd centuries BC
    Diameter: 18 mm
    Weight: 5.80 grams
    Obverse: Head of Kabeiros left, wearing pilos; two stars above
    Reverse: Club within wreath
    Reference: SNG München 168; SNG von Aulock 1502-3; SNG Copenhagen 247-8
    Other: 1h … brown patina, minor roughness on reverse
    From the Demetrios Armounta Collection



    Troas Birytis a.jpg Troas Birytis b.jpg
     
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  3. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Good coin. Better hat. I got a thing for hats on ancient coins.
     
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Cool coin, fun hat. Looks like an upside down flower pot. See the flowers on the sides? Kabieros must've been the life of the party :D
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Kabeiros (Cabeiri):
    The Cabeiri were possibly originally Thracian deities and protectors of sailors, who were imported into Greek ritual.

    They were most commonly depicted as two people: an old man, Axiocersus, and his son, Cadmilus. Due to the cult's secrecy, however, their exact nature and relationship with other ancient Greek and Thracian religious figures remained mysterious. As a result, the membership and roles of the Cabeiri changed significantly over time, with common variants including a female pair and twin youths who were frequently confused with Castor and Pollux, who were also worshiped as protectors of sailors.

    Aeschylus wrote a play called the Cabeiri, and the fragments that survive have them as a chorus greeting the Argonauts at Lemnos. showed them as prodigious wine-drinkers, and wine jars are "the only characteristic group of finds" from the Cabeirium of Lemnos. Walter Burkert suggests a raucous, burlesque character to the mysteries of the Cabeiri and notes an inscription at Lemnos indicates parapaizonti, the one who "jests along the way".

    In Classical Greek culture the mysteries of the Cabeiri at Samothrace remained popular, though little was entrusted to writing beyond a few names and bare genealogical connections. Seamen among the Greeks might invoke the Cabeiri as "great gods" in times of danger and stress.

    The votive dedications at Thebes are to a Kabeiros in the singular, and childish toys like votive spinning tops for Pais suggest a manhood initiation. Copious wine was drunk, out of characteristic cups that were ritually smashed. Fat, primitive dwarves (similar to the followers of Silenus) with prominent genitalia were painted on the cups.
     
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  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice one, I just have his tiny brother :(

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    Troas, Birytis (300 B.C.)
    AE11
    Birytis mint
    O: Head of Cabirus left wearing pileus.
    R: B-I/P-Y around club, all within laurel wreath.
    8mm
    1.1g
    SGCV II 4056 var, SNG Cop 250
     
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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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    Wow ... that's very cool, Mat

    => Mini Me!!

    mats.jpg Troas Birytis.jpg
     
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    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem


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    => Go, Kabeiros ... go, go K-dawg!!
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Man, you dudes should definitely jump on-board the ol' TROAS coins ... they're all that!!

    TROAS, Sigeion. Æ20
    4th-3rd centuries BC
    Diameter: 20 mm
    Weight: 8.03 grams
    Obverse: Head of Athena facing slightly right, wearing triple crested helmet and necklace
    Reverse: Double-bodied owl standing facing; crescent to right
    Reference: SNG München 304-6; SNG von Aulock 1570; SNG Copenhagen 493
    Other: 12h … rough brown surfaces
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    TROAS, Alexandria Troas
    Pseudo-autonomous issue, Æ As

    Circa mid 3rd century AD
    Diameter: 19 mm
    Weight: 4.27 grams
    Obverse: Turreted and draped bust of Tyche right; vexillum behind
    Reverse: She-wolf standing right, suckling the twins Remus and Romulus
    Reference: Bellinger A495; SNG Copenhagen 104-7
    Other: 10h … green patina with some areas of red
    From the Ronald J. Hansen Collection. Ex Noble 70 (11 July 2002), lot 3224
    Troas Tyche and Suckling Wolf.jpg




    Troas Alexandria Æ20
    Date: circa 253-268 AD
    Size: 20.64 mm
    Weight: 5.14 grams
    Obverse: CO TROA, Turreted draped bust of Tyche right
    Reverse: CO-L AV TRO, Eagle with open wings standing right on head of Bull
    Attribution: SNG von Aulock 7553
    Description: A bold bronze with sharp detail and lots of eye appeal

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    TROAS, Alexandria Troas Æ
    Pseudo-autonomous issue

    Circa mid 3rd century AD
    Diameter: 21 mm
    Weight: 6.01 grams
    Obverse: Turreted and draped bust of Tyche right, with vexillum over shoulder
    Reverese: Horse grazing right
    Reference: Bellinger A486; SNG von Aulock 1466; BMC 46; SNG Copenhnagen 108
    Other: 6h, attractive brown patina, light adjustment marks. Nice surfaces

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    TROAS, Birytis. Æ18
    4th-3rd centuries BC
    Diameter: 18 mm
    Weight: 5.80 grams
    Obverse: Head of Kabeiros left, wearing pilos; two stars above
    Reverse: Club within wreath
    Reference: SNG München 168; SNG von Aulock 1502-3; SNG Copenhagen 247-8
    Other: 1h … attractive brown patina, minor roughness on reverse
    From the Demetrios Armounta Collection
    Troas Birytis.jpg
     
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Great coin Steve. I love the characteristic bust on these types - a coin that's been on my to-do list for some time.
     
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks JA ...

    I've really been appreciating your current puchases as well (you rock, coin brother)

    Hey, if anyone has any Troas coins and/or any other relevant coin-additions then "please" post 'em .... man, I can't get enough of your coins!!!
     
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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    *self-sensored by stevex6*

    :panda:
     
  14. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    wonderful little coin stevex. one of these little pointy hat troas coin have been on my list for quite some time. i've bid on several, and always come up short.:meh:

    the obverse is fantastic, that's one of the nicest ones i've seen.
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks chrsmat ... yah, I've only seen "one" better than my lil' baby, and that example sold for over twice the price of my new sweetheart (yah, I'm pretty happy with my new addition ... can you tell?)


    :woot:


     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, do you wanna know one of the best things about this cool coin? ...

    => it is another tick in the ol' "Club" category and/or in the "weapons" category ...

    ... man, now I've almost got as many weapons as animals!! (funny how the ol' coin-collection evolves, eh?)

    => man, I love coins!!
     
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Just got in. Looks like you've been busy little brother. Fantastic coin. Any additional info on the Pilos? Looks like a gnome don't ya think?
     
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  18. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Couple sweet pick ups today Steve. I won one of the group lots after getting sniped on some of the single coins :rage:
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hey, "Hi Bing" ... yah, it is always nice hearing from you ...

    No, although I've been off *sick* all day, I haven't had much time to research Pilos ... but I'll try to do a bit more research tomorrow

    :panda:
     
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  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => oh-boy, oh-boy => I can't wait to see 'em!!!


    Bring it on, my Manitoba-bro!!
     
  21. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I am excited to see how it is going to turn out. It has a little bit of everything in it. I really want it to be delivered tomorrow!
     
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