Ancients - My most recent RR

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bing, May 3, 2014.

  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Last month I purchased this L Calpurnius Piso Frugi Roman Republic Denarius from a seller in Japan. It took less than two weeks for it to arrive, which I think is quite fast. It's my second of this series with a much different reverse from my other. The seller identified the reverse as having a crescent followed by Roman numerals XXII, and the seller sent along a certificate of authenticity issued by Timeline Originals in the UK. The certificate presented the reverse marking above and further referenced Calpernia 11. Once I received the coin, I noticed that the "crescent" looked more like a downward facing arrow, so I did some research. Many coins I found on the internet showed a downward arrow and either identified it as such or as the Roman numeral "L". More research turned up this interesting tidbit from Wikipedia:

    "Thus 50 was written variously as N, И, K, Ψ, ⋔, etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I: ᗐ. This had flattened to ⊥ (an inverted T) by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L."

    So, I am now leaning towards the Roman numerals at the top of the reverse to read LXXII. I cannot make out the symbols behind the head of Apollo very well, but I believe them to be a downward facing arrow and a V or thus LV.

    All this being said, I believe the proper attribution should be Calpurnia 12, even though I do not think it makes much of a difference. I was able to acquire the coin for $32.50; however, looking at Timeline Originals current listings, even the poorest quality of his offerings of this coin sell for much more. So, I think I got a good deal.

    Here is my most recent acquisition followed by my other of this series.

    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI 2 OBV.JPG
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI 2 REV.JPG
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI ROMAN REPUBLIC AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Laureate head of Apollo right, number LV behind
    REVERSE: Horseman galloping right, holding palm L PISO FRVGI below, ROMA monogram, number LXXII above
    Struck at Rome 90 BC
    3.75g, 18.4mm
    Cr340/1, Calpurnia 12

    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI 1 OBV.jpg
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI 1 REV.jpg
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI ROMAN REPUBLIC AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Laureate head of Apollo r., behind, point control, front, check letter
    REVERSE: Horseman galloping towards r., holding a palm branch, above, symbol, and below Piso Frvgi / check letter
    Struck at Rome 90 BC
    4.0g, 18mm
    Cr340/1, Sydenham 670d. bb/Calpurnia 11

    A little history from Wikipedia:
    "Lucius Calpurnius Piso Frugi was tribune of the plebs in 90 BC, or less likely 89, and may be identical with the praetor of 74. According to the historian Sisenna, his legislation as tribune proposed adding two new voting tribes and granting Roman citizenship to soldiers who demonstrated exceptional valor."

    If you have any Calpurnia coins, feel free to post.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Damn wagon...everyones getting new stuff :(

    Lovely coin and you got a heck of a deal on it.
     
  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice new denarius bing..I don't know which one I like better. I think I like your old coins reverse and you new coins obverse.
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Another great deal, Bing, and that portrait of Apollo is superb. They get so cartoonish sometimes on RR's.
     
  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice pick up!
    I don't have one of these but have always been amused by the variety which has the horseman being chased by a flying scorpion :D
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yeeeehaaaa => atta boy, Bing!!!


    Man, you're buying a few more coins lately (I love seeing you back in the ol' saddle again!!) ... great new addition

    Ummm, I also have an example of this type (but mine has a whip!!) ... *crack*


    c piso lf frugi a.jpg c piso lf frugi b.jpg

    ... I definitely admit that your coin has better centering, but my example has deadly high-relief (both are absolutely awesome ... congrats, coin-bro)
     
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  8. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I am happy to see you picking up a new RR Bing, and a fantastic one at that!
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thanks everyone for the coin compliments. However, I was also hoping to get some kind of confirmation or non-agreement with the "down arrow" information from those of you who know and understand Latin better. Anyone?
     
  10. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very nice jw,love the new coin, your picture is great too..
     
  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Cool addition! I have nothing to add unfortunately
     
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