Wells Fargo GOLD your opinion on this one.

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  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I have been looking for a nice example of the 1908 Wells Fargo Nevada saint
    and I came across this one, it has most of my requirements OGH, Wellsfargo
    Nevada label, it is a 66 but to me at least its not a particularly nice to look at
    opinions would be appreciated.
     
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  3. mpcusa

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  5. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I need to see other angles as the black splotches could be the lighting.

    For this coin, I would probably pay no more than $3,500.
     
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  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I have no vested interest in selling this coin, but if you trust my judgment, I think you'll like this coin MUCH better in person.
     
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  7. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Nice, I'll take it. Thanks for sharing @mpcusa
     
  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I totally agree. In this case I believe that the lighting is throwing things off. Better lighting please.
     
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  9. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Yes, but please do not be in a rush as there will be plenty about and likely you will find one that appeals to YOU & not necessarily us.
     
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  10. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    They tend to come nice with great luster as here. Heritage APRs look like around 3150 for non cac 66's. I dont think the OGH carries a lot of weight in this instance.
     
  11. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    The dark blotches as a result of lighting are somewhat weird.

    I know GDJMSP has shown before-and-after pics that show a coin dramatically changing depending on the light source and angle.

    So I'm hesitant to say that the coin in-hand looks different. It might....but I can't say for sure.
     
  12. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Its actually listing for just over 4K, the problems for me is the color is
    very uneven and this eyes are very disturbing, almost alien like...LOL
    and a 66 should be allot brighter, so those are my concerns.
     
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  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I did request other pics, so will see if I get them ?
     
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  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    When it comes to this coin you can definitely wait, there are plenty of fish in the sea...LOL
     
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  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Gold coins can develop a hazey film that blocks some of the luster. This photo seems to indicate that this coin has it. You don’t know for sure until you have seen the coin in person. It can be removed, but gets into removing the coin from the slab, restoring it and getting it regraded. And then you will get complaints from collectors who take original surfaces to nth degree.

    If you don’t like the haze, I would keep looking.
     
  16. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    JM, is the "hazy film" those black splotches ?
     
  17. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    How do you verify an OGH on the PCGS cert verification site? I tried to type that in, no luck. I scanned that barcode, on the computer screen, with my phone. And it came back as: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/02104375. Then I scanned again and it came back as an invalid cert.
     
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  18. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    No. It’s a whitish thin film that dulls the gold color. The black splotches are something else, most likely copper stains that have turned a very dark brown. Those are likely permanent and usually can’t be fixed.
     
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  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Duplicate post.
     
  20. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    It won't come back as OGH, to the best of my knowledge.

    You have to ID it as legit and then track down the holder from the PCGS (or NGC) Hall of Holders archives. :D
     
  21. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    Here is the closest ad I could find with a condition known as "bag rub", but I've never seen a photo where the luster of the fields is completely blocked:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3347273141...jRDxF6YnzegQGZoL2GgF8Tivc=|tkp:Bk9SR_78y9bFYQ

    I personally search for a coin with flawless lustrous fields, with sharp well defined devices without "bag marks", a condition seldom located!

    JMHO
     
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