Ancients --swastika?

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  1. nathanj485

    nathanj485 Active Member

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    What is the meaning of the swastika in ancient times? I know of its connection to early Buddhism but know little of its ancient origins pre-Christ.
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    It is a Sanskrit word and the symbol itself can be traced back to neolithic times. It has meaning not only to Buddhism, but also Hinduism and Jainism too. I am sure you could lean much simply by googling and wading through the unfortunate modern (Western) uses.
     
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  4. nathanj485

    nathanj485 Active Member

    I read where it was a symbol representing the sun
     
  5. josh's coins

    josh's coins Well-Known Member

    Perhaps the Nazis actually did have a time machine.. :bookworm:
     
  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Not cool, Josh; I believe this gentleman was hoping for a serious and mutually beneficial discussion.
     
  7. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

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  8. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    It's true...even the US Army's 45th Infantry Division had a swastika as their insignia until the mid-1930s. It was a tribute to the Native Americans that had in the Oklahoma region where the unit was based.
     
  9. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    And here it is:

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    Wikipedia: "Before the 1930s, the division's symbol was a red square with a yellow swastika, a tribute to the large Native American population in the southwestern United States."
     
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  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    here's an ancient swastica on the reverse of this indo-greek coin, just above the lion...kind of hard to see ( 2nd century bc).

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    obverse with elephant..

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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great coin, chrsmat71

    => here is another example, my friend ...


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  12. fiatfiasco

    fiatfiasco Nasty Details Member

    Unfortunately, whenever I see someone affiliated with a swastika, I believe them to be sympathetic to Nazis. Collect coins with a swastika? Nazi. Ancient piece of pottery with a swastika? Nazi. There are so many other things to collect, admire, etc, I just cannot get it out of my head that if you choose to own something with a swastika, you're a Nazi.
     
  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Like those Nazi Kachina dolls, or Nazi Bhudda statues?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

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  14. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Well, that's an unfortunate assumption to make about people. The swastika existed far earlier than its adoption by the Nazis, but now it somehow only belongs to them? The fact is, it is a symbol that has been present in multiple cultures for hundreds (if not thousands) of years, and the fact that you immediately associate anyone who collects coins on which it is present as a Nazi sympathizer completely ignores it's historical context and significance.
     
  15. fiatfiasco

    fiatfiasco Nasty Details Member

    I thought my wording was very obviously laying on the sarcasm thick. Thickly.
     
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  16. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Thanks for clarifying that, it is a bit tough to read intonation over the internet.
     
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  17. fiatfiasco

    fiatfiasco Nasty Details Member

    Youre obviously both Nazis.
     
  18. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  19. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    You already mentioned that psychological problem of yours before. ;) Must admit that, when I read about people who collect German coins "but only nazi pieces with a swastika", I wonder about their motivation. But in this case ... I mean, various people just showed how and why the swastika was or is used in different contexts and with a different meaning.

    Christian
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

  21. fiatfiasco

    fiatfiasco Nasty Details Member

    Christians a Nazi too.
     
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