Should This Listing Be Reported?

I sent him a message , asking him to please omit the NGC material . I'll go see if he did , but in fairness he might not have recieved it yet .

 

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11:41 and it appears he removed the NGC info.

I agree that it looks harshly cleaned as well. He also mentions he strives to take the best pictures he can....blah, blah, blah, but they are simply lousy.

 

"strives to take the best pictures"

Right. I think some sellers actually LIKE the fact that their camera/hand-held computer smartphone thingies take cruddy photos. I also like how it's photographed in BAD lighting, and at an angle.

It's just a trick of the lights.

 

You mean that isn't an MS-70 ?

 

This is an example of why I don't buy raw coins on Ebay. The coin looks like it was scrubbed clean with steel brushes and lye soap, and the seller is saying with a straight face that he is sure it would "grade high". With the scratches being blatantly obvious even in poor lighting, I can only imagine what it looks like in hand.

 

If you don't like don't bid. If it makes you feel better then report it.
See it easy one or the other or both

 

Oh, sorry if I was unclear. It was a very simple question. Im not 100% where the "liking it or not" and/or the "buying it or not" part came from. The threads question was should it be reported because it was listed as NGC MS63, when it is obviously not slabbed by a TPG. Roger?

 

I looked at the listing and was freaking out because I saw nothing wrong with it, until I read the rest of the thread. Glad y'all reported it.

It's a shame that thing has been so harshly cleaned, I love these coins. In it's current condition, I imagine it wouldn't be able to fetch a whole lot more than two Benjamin's.

Well, not anymore it's not!

 

I know what you mean. I get anxious when someone hands me a coin and says "show me what's wrong with this" and the issue doesnt jump out immediately.

On a side note, knowing everything there is to know (within reason) about a specific series, or mint mark, or year, etc, can be very profitable. At the coin show I was at a few weeks back I came across a coin, that had been slabbed, and neither the dealer nor the TPG had caught this particular variety. I tried to play it so cool so as not to give it away. I only had I think like $500-$600 on me, but luckily there was an ATM. I asked him to hold that coin, and 5 others (hoping he wouldnt be anle to analyze all 6 in 5mins), gave him $200, and said I would be back in 5mins, to just hold them for 5 mins. I ran there and back. When I got back, I handed him the other $650, and said I could only take out enough for the one I really wanted. I was shaking the whole drive home. Pretty nice identification "Win". Coin is easily worth $3.5k-4k with the variety attributed.

 

WTG , I didn't even know they collected Indian 1/4 eagles by variety , what variety was it .

 

Haha, not an Indian

 

Guess that's why I didn't know . Knowledge is power .

 

But you DID! You knew that there weren't varieties in Indian $2.5's!! That is the exact mindset that bugs me out; not knowing if I know.

I just got back from the coin show at the western most location of the circuit I normally attend. One guy had a whole case of graded Pre'33 gold. There was a small crowd the entire time around him. Part of me wanted to rush over and search his stock ASAP so that someone else didn't find the "diamond in the rough"...the other part of me didn't want to squeeze in just to be rushed.

 

Yeah but they were good enough to tell that the coin has been harshly cleaned and well worn.

 

It is his opinion on the grade, it isn't slabbed.

Besides, it should be noted that the scratches aren't marked either.



Just thinkin'.

But there isn't anything wrong with an opinion, you see it everyday in 2X2 flips.

 

perhaps he corrected the listing, no mention of NGC or a cert #

 

Perhaps if you read both pages of posts you would have seen the comments regarding how the ebay seller edited his listing because of one of the forum members messages. I am not trying to be rude. I just don't understand how people jump in without looking first.

 

You? not rude?

nah, just testy.

Gee, next time I'll be like you.

and be perfect.

 

I meant what I said and it isnt rude. This is a forum. To respond and interact it has one prerequisite; reading the post(s) before you form and publish an opinion. I am rude for correcting or pointing that out? And how defensive of a statement is "next time I will be perfect like you?" I know you dont like to read, but go into my forum history and read how many people I have thanked for pointing things out I didnt know, or how I volunteered that I didn't know something and though differently now thanks to them enlightening me.

Criticism can be taken and applied to better oneself, or it can be taken as an insult and you remain the same. I hope if you are using a coin forum you hope to use it correctly. I mean, you can take a tree down with the square side of an axe, but doesn't it make sense to use the blade end? Would you tell a logger he is a jerk for helping you do less work and chop a tree better?

I wish the solution was to grow thicker skin, it seems to be a trait that permeates our society fairly thoroughly. But the reality is you need to not be insulted and learn from your mistakes.

Don't worry, I wont hold it against you. We humans can only ever strive for perfection and are destined to always chase it.

 

feel free to .

I will await your one and only error.

Oh, never mind, it'll never happen..
Oh, wise one