Ebay mistake costs big money

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jaceravone, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    im going to keep checking this just to see what the troll says.
     
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  3. Odieo331

    Odieo331 Member

    Regarding the OP, does feebay still have the second-chance option and if so, would it apply in this situation? I thought there used to be a clause that if the winning bid failed to pay or forfeited their purchase in some way the next highest bidder could be given an opportunity to win.
     
  4. Hey Joe: Do you have an ex-wife/girlfriend who is not happy with you? :punch::banghead::mad::rage:
     
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  5. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Ok, no verbal attacks here, but I wanted to address some comments that our new friend Mr. SCCC made about my post. Why I am even having to defend myself is ridiculous but here it goes. Some of us are not as experienced on ebay as others. I like to think that I am experienced, but there are new things that pop up every now and again that catch me by surprise. This was one of them.

    Mr. SCCC continually states that I checked off my return policy when making my listing on ebay - this is incorrect. First, I use a template, so whatever was checked off previously stays checked off unless of course you change it each and every time which I don't. Second, I used to have the basic 7 day return policy, but I never checked off a 14 day policy. In 2013 ebay changed their return policy to mandate a minimum of 14 days. I did accept the change and by doing so, my listing automatically defaulted to the 14 day minimum return policy because a seven day policy was no longer available. Yes, the 14 days is the default or nominal setting. And just incase you think I'm making this up, here is the release from ebay last year. I took the liberty to highlight the important part.
    "Online buyers look for a reassuring return policy when deciding which products to buy. To be competitive and to attract the most number of buyers, offer a generous return policy. If you have a standard or above performance rating you’ll also get a boost in Best Match, eBay’s default sort order, for offering a 14-day or longer return policy.

    Remember, all listings on eBay must specify a return policy—even if the policy is no returns accepted.* Keep in mind that a relatively small percentage of purchases get returned and most sellers find that offering a generous policy more than pays for itself in increased sales.

    It’s important to clearly explain how your policy works in your listings, on your eBay Store pages, and on your About Me page so buyers understand their options. Make sure the return policy options you specify in your listing and any details you offer about your return policy in your listing description are consistent.

    Beginning the first week of May(2013), sellers who accept returns will be required to have a minimum 14-day return policy and offer a money-back option. Starting the first week of May 28, you will also have the opportunity to use a new return process on eBay—giving buyers an easy way to return items and you an efficient way to manage returns—including 1-click refunds that automatically credit back your final value fees.
    - See more at: http://pages.ebay.com/ae/en-us/sell.../returns-best-practices/#sthash.Wi6cEfH5.dpuf"


    So because I hadn't created a new template in years, I went to create a new one to see for myself what is available. Mr SCCC is correct that you have a choice to select a 14 day return policy or not. This is not automatically selected for you as I may have alluded to. But if you do have a return policy, the minimum is now a 14 day period. You can have longer if you chose or you can have none, but you can't have anything shorter. And if you don't select the box then you will have no returns and as discussed previously, this could hurt any future sales.

    Next he keeps repeating himself about this 20% discount. I have no idea what he is talking about. I am 95% collector/buyer and 5% seller. I don't have an ebay store that I sell from. Maybe those with an ebay store get 20% off, but I surely don't. I pay a 12.3% fee on ebay and paypal combined. What I can't stand are dealers with ebay stores who lie about their fees to us customers to make us feel sorry for them. People with ebay stores get discounts because they usually pay a monthly fee. So I really don't know what he means when he keeps telling me that I would have received a 20% discount if I listed it under bullion. This is not a bullion coin and I would not have listed that way. Plus sellers can't get their ebay bucks when an item is listed under bullion and I completely respect that because I collect ebay bucks as well.

    Next, he makes a "whining" complaint himself about these big companies and deep pocket individuals who buy up all the commemorative coins and then sell at high prices. That my friend is called capitalism and I love it. Other than the quick sell out of the gold coins, which I will admit shocked me considering that we hadn't had a gold sell out in nearly three decades, the silver coins had been available for well over two weeks after they went on sale and the clads are still available. If you hadn't bought your coins in the first few weeks then you are either lazy or procrastinated too long. And this is not name calling. I have made these very same comments on other posts because people felt that the ordering limits were too high. High as they were, the coins did not sell out overnight and there was plenty of time to get your orders in with the exception of the gold pieces. And if you wanted one and weren't able to order yours then I am sorry.....but don't blame us "deep pocketed" individuals...blame the mint for setting the ordering limits and blame congress for setting the mintage limits. And I am sorry to say Mr. SCCC, no it is not your right to be able to purchase US govt. issued commemorative coins. Nobody has a right to that and nobody ever has.

    Your are right Mr. SCCC, I did make out like a bandit and it wasn't because of my college education that you keep alluding to. I made out because when I see an opportunity to make a few dollars, I jump at it. You have that same opportunity as well. I am definitely not complaining about that. And no, I was not complaining about losing my sale either. I have lost a lot more in life than a measly 4 grand and I am sure I will lose even more as I age. But that is life and I am willing to take those chances....are you? Thats your choice and I would never fault you for that, so why do you feel the need to fault me? Do me a favor and go back and read the poem at the end of my post. Did I not educate the members on here by giving them a real life example of what could happen? That is what I call education. If I went to war and lost both my legs and then came home to educate my fellow Americans about the risk of war, would you criticize me for doing so? Would you say that I am whining about losing both my legs when it was my choice to join the army?

    Mostly all the members on here are civil and we expect that in return. People supported me because that is what we do here. We support each other when we make stupid and silly mistakes and we congratulate those who have victories in their collecting endeavors.

    I apologize for any name calling as that was inappropriate and for any offense that you may have taken to it.

    Joe

     
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  6. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    If it were an auction style sale then you are correct, but it was a BIN (Buy it Now) sale and there is no second offer.
     
  7. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    +1!
     
  8. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

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    im marking scc as a troll, all he has posted is stuff on this thread and he stopped posting after everyone called him one.
    i might be wrong, but IMAO that is what i see.
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Never explain - your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.

    Elbert Hubbard
     
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  10. fiatfiasco

    fiatfiasco Nasty Details Member

    I am ready for my crucifixion. Ebay followed the rules. The rules is the rules. Next time pay more attention. Sorry.
     
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  11. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    The only thing I can conclude from this thread is that reading comprehension is a lost art.
     
  12. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    The OP Accepted returns. When the buyer returned the coin, he came here to complain. Then all the Ebay bashers came out and started a pity party. Coins get returned, so what resell it and move on. If his only point of the threads was to share his experience that buyers can return coins on Ebay, I think all of us are aware of that.
     
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  13. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I think his point was a little more than that...I don't think he was just stating the obvious. I think it was in-part of make sure everyone is aware that this is a default setting on eBay that you might want to uncheck on some items (this being one...where the item is a short term "hot" item).

    I also think sometimes when you have had a bad experience, it is helpful to vent to peers. Many members here have made similar..."I had a bad day" post. I don't think the OP is trying to blame anybody but himself...and I don't think he is whining or complaining. Perhaps he is venting a little frustration at himself, but I think he is mostly trying to warn those who don't know that his is the default so...be aware of that.
     
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  14. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    fair enough
     
  15. SCCoinCollector

    SCCoinCollector New Member

    For the last time people - There is NO "return policy" default. He did not tell the truth. Anyone that has listed in tehepast three years can confirm this fact. The seller MUST choose his return policy and the ebay site DOES NOT DEFAULT to anything except disallowing you to proceed until you check NOT accepting returns OR accepting returns for 7, 14, or 30 days.

    And PTDavis, you can stop sending me harassing person messages. Do you not have a life or are you just a mental case? I beliueve three messages in less than an hour with no response should be a hint - I finally sent you a reply and I will delete any further messages so do not waste your time sending any more. Geesh!
     
  16. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    @Mr. SCCC This is how it looks on my screen in ebay. How does it look in your screen? You either check that you do accept returns....and it DEFAULTS to 14 days or you don't .....and you don't accept returns. No lying involved either.
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

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    Oh, man, you didn't have to reload and take aim at the other foot...
     
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  18. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Good nite sweet (sour) prince.........
     
  20. fiatfiasco

    fiatfiasco Nasty Details Member

    PTDavis is the bossman bud.

    Foot, meet mouth. Other foot, push first foot further.
     
  21. fiatfiasco

    fiatfiasco Nasty Details Member

    I cannot believe you wrote that....Peter, go easy, I really dont think he knew.
     
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