Ancients - Cherronesos Hemidrachm Challenge

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  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    A couple of weeks ago, a new member was asking if the price of a poorly preserved Cherronesos Hemidrachm was a good price. I responded that I thought he/she could do better for the money if they would be patient and shop around a bit. So I took my own advice as a challenge. I found this little gem for a decent price of $31 after some shopping around, well within the targeted price range ($25-$45).

    There is a problem however. I cannot find a reference for this particular reverse. That is not completely true as Barry Murphy shows a similar reverse on his page, but without a reference as well (see the last coin on http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/chersonese/page9.htm ). I emailed Mr. Murphy, but as of yet, I have not received a reply.

    I would appreciate any assistance in referencing this coin:
    Thrace Cherronesos 4.jpg
    THRACE AR Hemidrachm
    OBVERSE: Forepart of lion right, head turned back
    REVERSE: Quadripartite incuse square, E above pellet // grain kernel beside pellet in each of the two sunken quarters
    Struck at Cherronesos, 400-350 BC
    2.30g, 14mm
    Reverence: ?????

    This is my fourth Cherronesos Hemidrachm, all with different reverses. If you like, show off your Cherronesos Hemidrachms. I know there are some real beauties out there.
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    *sweet*

    I like the new pick-up, my good ol' dawg!! (nice to see you hunting) ...

    FYI => Batman sold me this humble lil' beauty ($40 delivered) ...


    chersonesos a.jpg chersonesos b.jpg
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Good buy in my estimation. Great detail on the lion.
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Edited: :oops: I referenced the same site you posted.

    Nice coin, good price!
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thanks TIF
     
  7. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    $31? What a steal!
     
  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  9. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice addition, can't help on the reference.
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The first is fourree. The third has as good a face as I have seen but the flan is too small. Nice ones of these are hard to find. However there are way too many of them to pay big money for so-so coins.
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  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    sweet coin for 31 bucks...

    I don't have one to show.:(
     
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I guess no one has a reference for me as of yet. Well, here are my other three:
    Thrace Cherronesos 2.jpg Thrace Cherronesos 3.jpg Thrace Cherronesos.jpg

    My most expensive was $42 (first coin above) and the other three were all within a couple bucks of each other.
     
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  13. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Wow jw awesome, another great pickup.love the grapes...
     
  14. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    Here is mine. It is one of favorites! I will admit that mine was also more than $45, but still wanted to share:) Reverse is dot/bunch of grapes. CherronesosO2.jpg CherronesosR2.jpg
     
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  15. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Now that these are Russian territorial issued coins I am a bit antsy about posting mine or I will hear from Pooty Poot.

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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

  17. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    The map for me is a veritable want list of locations to collect from. I have visited Tyra, Borysthenes and Olbiya, but the others in Crimea and the Kerch peninsula I was hoping to visit this month. Really really really wanted to see Kherson and am disappointed we had to postpone our trip because of all the unrest in the E of the country.

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    And now with all the threats betwixt Ukraine and Russia about imposing visa regimes on travel on each other...

    Some of the cities on the map are pretty easy to get, Chersonesos, Olbiya, Pantikapayon are readily available to collectors. Others like Tyra and Fanagoriya are little stinkers to find examples from.
     
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  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    What is that in the incuse square on the last coin you posted
     
  19. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Wheat and a dot. Wheat is appropriate as even then it was a major trading commodity. There is a reason why UA is called the breadbasket of Europe. Wheat is the gold colouring of the flag also.
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice coins everyone. But still no reference for my initial coin?
     
  21. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Sure, do you read Russian? Anokhin is the preferred reference. These coins are much better studied in Russian than they are in English. Given the source and all.
     
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