Strange Byzantine

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hi. Not only this coin has a strange shape, but it also has the figure of a vase instead of an Emperor on its reverse. What meaning could that hold? I appreciate your comments. Thanks.
    Charles Bvase O.jpg Bvase R.jpg
     
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  3. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    this is only a partial coin. the image is not a vase. that is the head. The cross on the top is the top of a crown, what look like handles is actually curls of hair. the only facial details visible are the right eye and eye brow.
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  5. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thanks a lot. Can we guess the name of the emperor ?
    Charles
     
  6. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Constans II, without a doubt
     
  7. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thanks Ard.
    Charles
     
  8. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Because of the general appearance and irregular shape this will more likely be an Arab-Byzantine issue than an official Byzantine issue.
     
  9. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I suppose it could be one of the early, pseudo-Byzantine issues. I still think it's just a crude official strike.
     
  10. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Its tough to say either way. I believe there is a continuum of issues during this time, from good official issues, to crude official issues, to local imitations, to early Arab-Byzantine. The only thing really crude about this piece is the lettering for the mint, the style of the portrait and the M is actually pretty good, (if poorly struck).
     
  11. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    I agree there is a continuum in these issues, without sharply defined borders.
    Based on the portrait side i would agree with a bona fide official issue.
    It is the reverese which makes me suggest an (early) pseudo-Byzantine issue.
    I would grade the M lower than "pretty good". The lettering is crude, but that is seen on the official issues also. However, i don't seean officina letter i would expect below the M. Also there is ample of space for the year number to the right of the M. I only see a I spaced very close to the M. For me this doesn't feel right for a year I coin.
    But please do not take my word as the gospel, it's just an opinion.
     
  12. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    my first thought was constans ii.
     
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