Opinions on the grade of this Seated Quarter

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good to know I got nothing on seated quarters either thanks!

 

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Scratch that... they're out. No matter though... if you take the time to look around, sooner or later you'll find a copy.

 

Good to know I got the books on seated half dimes dimes and halfs but nothing on seated quarters good to know about something out there anyway

 

You're welcome.

Thus far I've only checked Stanton, Amazon, and ebay (none are available) but if you look around, it shouldn't take too long to find a copy. Perhaps BookFinder may be of some help, or check Lake's when the next list becomes available in April.

 

Thanks I will and now I know there's one to look for I'll keep it on my radar since getting real serious about coins again a couple three years ago I've really been working on building a great reference libarAry

 

I just disagree with you on the Seated half, the coin has a ton of eye appeal a little brushiness in the fields. The stigmatization of good coins is damaging to the hobby. If you instead demanded that coins that are high value need to adhere to stricter standards than all well and good. To be overly critical on under $500 coins is just petty.

I have bought and sold a fair amount of Seated material and attractive or original toning is appealing to many collectors not to all. And I have had Seated material that takes forever to sell because frankly they are usually slow movers.

If you think that NGC/NCS are always right how about this:




Quite an improvement, eh?

 

Personally I preferred it toned granted the toning could be better but it was an original coin I'm a fan of color over blast white regardless it's an amazing half a million plus coin

 

I don't think being critical of coins under $50o is pretty at all...it's being consistent. As for the toned vs untoned version of that 1893-S...the second photo is so poor all I can see is the toning is gone. Like I said before, there are some forms of acceptable cleaning which does not damage the surface of the coin. Normally, toning is removed through a dipping process which if done correctly does not damage the coin.

This is different than the ICG seated liberty. IF the photos you posted are an accurate representation of the coin...then whatever was done to it damaged the surface of the coin. Clearly, that's what NGC saw. Since you didn't like that, you sent the coin to a less reputable service and they put it in a problem free holder. Like I said before, I hope the buyer recognized that and paid accordingly.

 

Granted the surface quality of the 93-s wasn't wonderful before but as I said not a big fan of blast white either and an ms-67 1893-s is an amazing thing if I was wealthy and owned it after I got it back from NGC I'd crack it out and put it in either an album or a Manila envelope to get attactive to I g and wait 20 years and watch the coin and my profits get prettier see Eric p Newman coins for beautiful toning I loved the color on 90% of the collection and am happy to have a few minor coins

 

I don't mind them blast white as long as the luster is excellent. That said, I do find the pre-dipped (toned) version of this coin unaesthetic. That said, if I owned this coin the last thing I would do is crack it and put it in an album or envelope. I'd be too concerned about any minor ding it could acquire and the subsequent loss of value.

 

You got a point there it is a 67 I'd just have to be real careful actually what I'd do is sell it and buy a real nice example of both the 1794 flowing hair dollar and a 1796-7 small eagle half xf of each would be fine I'd have some money to buy a few others

 

There was a consensus on the Jack Lee coin that it was reduced to something much inferior to the original.

If supposed experts here are not doing over $100K a year in buying and selling coins, or have done so, they don't have the creds. to be making market standard judgments.

Oh, and by the way "DMD", I had a crown come out about 8 months ago and am still looking for an economical option on that; you guys are way too expensive and when pros. charge too much they break people's budgets or they don't get important dental and other work done. There is a very large part of the population needing dental work that can not afford it!

 

Beauty and a fair grade. I would have been a bit more critical with a 55, but not a professional grader (evidenced by the Lincoln I posted earlier...) but I do LOVE your coin and would gladly buy it as a 58.
1853 rays is another favorite; I sold my last one and it's one I would like back.

 

Jack Lee

 

Just because I don't buy/sell of a $100K in coins a year has nothing to do with my "creds." I examine millions of dollars of coins per year at shows and at shops so my ability to grade and understand the market is just fine. I have plenty of "creds" in this area.

Unfortunately, that's the way it is. Believe it or not, my costs to do a crown is pretty high. The profit margin for a crown is 10%...maybe 15% on a good day. So, don't come crying to me that dental fees are too high...I have to pay the bills too. If overhead costs were a lot lower...dental fees would be too.

 

I'm say Au55-58 range i would say due to wear on high points this is not MS coin !!

 

"Unfortunately, that's the way it is. Believe it or not, my costs to do a crown is pretty high. The profit margin for a crown is 10%...maybe 15% on a good day. "

(On the dental issue). Another collector told me about a dental school which is considerably cheaper than the $2000 dollar or so figure I was quoted by the guy who originally put in the crown and others.

 

You can get your tooth fixed for $20 a bottle of booze and a pair of pliers give it a day or two and no more tooth pain ever and you got more money to spend on coins

 

Dental schools are cheaper...the overhead costs are different there. Discounted rates for labs, no staff to pay, VERY high student tuition (considerably higher than medical school). However, it makes WAY longer to get the work done.

$2000 is high for a crown. I charge $950 for a crown at my office...but if additional procedures are needed the fee is higher because of those procedures.

 

Still way off topic on that but certain parts of the country are more expensive than others.