Madison dollar

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  1. letmesee2

    letmesee2 Active Member

    GOD has the raised letter "S" in between the "O" and "D". There appears to be another letter
    between the "G" and "O" but, it is a lighter strike.
     

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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If it is an "S", it's a completely different font and is larger than the font used for the edge lettering. How can you explain this along with the fact that you say it is raised?

    Chris
     
  4. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Looks more like a reverse "P" to me.
     
  5. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    this is a well known anomaly for the presidential dollars . two coins bumped together really hard and the incuse letters on the edge made raised up letters on the other coin. some folks think this was done during the edge lettering process because of a pile up in the lettering machine. I keep all of them I find with the extra letters.
     
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  6. letmesee2

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  7. letmesee2

    letmesee2 Active Member

    Chris. I do not know. I am totally new to coin collecting. I am learning a lot from the people that are kind enough to respond to my post. Rascal's response makes senses.
    I appreciate all responses. Thanks to all.
     
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  8. cpm9ball

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    Rascal,

    I can't imagine how this could happen as the result of a pile-up. Once a coin has received the edge lettering, it is ejected and dumped into the bin. Where does the pile-up occur?

    Chris
     
  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    You are right about that, look at the " S " that got tranferred between " GOD ", its from one of the other letters found on the coin Madison dollar  18.jpg
     
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  11. cpm9ball

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    Rascal,

    With all due respect for you, the "author" of that piece is, in my opinion, full of bull droppings. His only intent is to try to sell something he claims is an error without offering any valid explanation for how it could occur in the lettering process. I don't believe that enough force could be imparted if a jam occurred. If that were the case, why hasn't he submitted such "errors" for authentication by a reputable grading service?

    Chris
     
  12. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    It can't be an impression of an S from another part of the coin, it would be backwards.
    If this were possible wouldn't the resulting letters be backwards? On the OP's coin the apparent S isn't. Also the edge letters are all the same size, the so called S looks larger than GOD.
     
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  13. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    dt when it comes to whether a extra letter is backwards or not on the new dollars I think this would be determined by which way the donor coin was turned " heads side up or tails side up" when it got smashed into the other coin. the reason the S looks larger is most likely because it got flattened down by the band of the lettering machine. all of these I have in my collection are flattened down like the OP'S coin.
     
  14. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Chris almost every error coin expert I have talked to about this believe the extra letters got on the coins edges during the edge lettering process. my thinking is that plain edge coins may have been used to eject the finished coins. some folks claim these are not a mint error and some folks say they are a mint error. until this is solved the extra letter coins may not be authenticated as a error coin.
     
  15. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Nope, an S looks the same upside down or right side up. Try again.
     
  16. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I was referring to all the letters on the dollar coin not just the S .
     
  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I've heard about this theory on coins bumping into each other and all I can say is that I'd expect some flattening of the rim in the area where a bump, which would be hard enough to cause metal movement on the recipient coin, occurred.

    As for the so called "S", I believe it's a "P" as indicated by the right angle which appears in the upper right of the impression.

    Madison dollar  18a.jpg
     
  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    thats no " P ", better yet, look at the size of that letter, it doesn't fix on the rim, or bigger then the orginal rim lettering
     
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  19. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    What ever you say Rick.
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I think (in this case) it's a trick of our eyes trying to make sense of random marks causing us to "see" something.
     
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