http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/1-oz-33-9grams-american-gold_743224439.html The above link shows this duplicate of American Eagle. It claims to be gold plated tungsten. Think again if you think 'as long as weight and dimensions are right, then it is real'. They also do maple leaf and krugs. My question is: would tungsten coin ring like gold? Coz my Eagle rings( not sure if it is real or fake) beautifully, not sure about this tungsten coin. Surf around on alibaba express, it has alot of duplicate silver bars and coins with good weight and dimensions.
The only way i can tell it is fake is that they are 24 k plated, so it lacks the copper color, which real krugs and Eagles have.
I cant compare it to my Eagle because mine is the 1987 one, the design is different than the modern Eagle, from which the fake copied from.
It seems like they only do the 2005 eagle. Here is another picture from a different seller with the same 2005 eagle. Another observation is that the fake one's top eagle looks cartoonish with longer neck perhaps.
I would like to examine more closely to learn, but at $150 -$200 each with a minumun of 10, the tuition is a bit high
Anyone who thinks the secret service doesn't have this company on their radar is fooling themselves. I'd be willing to bet they are watching U.S. buyers of these for resell.
it doesnt even look real. it looks cartoonish. i mean, just because it weighs properly and dimensions are good doesnt mean you should ignore common sense by what your eyes are telling you.
That's exactly what we have to do with classic American gold to be sure it's authentic. Too many buyers of collectible gold coins are getting false positives on forgeries because they are rely on weight and / or purity measurements alone. I can't count the number of pieces I've bought and returned to eBay sellers who'd purchased fakes, and then resold them, thinking they were real. As for the "ring" of the tungsten coins versus gold, the frequency emitted is in direct proportion to the specific stiffness (rato of density to modulus of elasticity) of the material. I haven't compared the two ratios, but tungsten is roughly twice the stiffness of steel - far more stiff than gold - and therefore should ring at a much higher pitch than gold does. - Mike
Thanks for answering my question. I believe their artistic skills will get better over time on these coins. Time to buy an ultrasound device.
Perhaps the government thinks this is a good way to discourage people from buying gold or silver and make sure we put our faith just in the Dollar solely. Wait, Do I sound like a conspiracy theorist?
The ones in the pics are not genuine coins used to sell fakes. There are several things not correct about these pieces... Shouldn't be hard to spot if you know what you are looking at.
Yes of course, just wanted to note that there are instances where a good coin is pictured and a bad one is delivered. Not to imply that is the case with the coin in question in this thread.
And that was good input. People should be aware that they may not always receive the coin that's shown, especially when it comes to bullion.
