Show us your Gold Beans!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by bhaugh, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. bhaugh

    bhaugh AKA - 1872Hokie

    I picked up my first Gold Bean a few weeks ago, and figured it was time to start another showcase and ask for people to post their Gold Beans!
    If you've had any interaction with me, you know what series my Gold Bean is in...
    [​IMG] I got this one from a fellow collector. I'm waiting on the new DIVa catelog to be finalized to I can have them attribute it as "Struck on a Proof Planchet"
    [​IMG] This coin was actually a part of the study CAC did when they initially started looking at Ikes. It definitly has the mirror finish of a proof, and a long with that comes my complete inability to properly photograph a proof coin. Knowing that it's a Gold Bean, and comparing the strike to other Ikes that I have, I would say its probably at least an MS65.
     
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  3. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I only have single one. I have 35 green beans so far, more coming in soon, and I hope another gold on a Peace $1 I am sending.

    1995 1c Obv Slab MS66RD CAC Doubled Die.jpg
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  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Here are the only 2 I have been awarded.

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  5. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Wow, basically a MS67 1939 S 50C, which must go for like 3 times MS66 money. Very nice.
     
  6. bhaugh

    bhaugh AKA - 1872Hokie

    Very nice coins guys. I'm excited to have one in my collection just because i know they are few and far between.
     
  7. mill rat41

    mill rat41 Member

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    My only gold CAC - from the SPQR collection, which hurt the value of gold beans as many hundreds were auctioned off at the same time.
     
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  8. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I've earned 14 or so out of 120 or so coins submitted. Perhaps later I can get some images up, but right now I have to figure a coin deal.
     
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  9. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Business first, play later. I think I usually get that backwards. ;)
     
  10. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Well-Known Member

    some nice gold beans!
     
  11. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    My only Gold Bean. Bought it when I was first collecting Morgans.

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  12. bhaugh

    bhaugh AKA - 1872Hokie

    Wow, 14 Gold Beans. That's awesome. what series are these in? Are they mostly old slab stuff?
    For Ike's I know they are few and far between. I'm happy to have one in my collection.
     
  13. Hotpocket

    Hotpocket Supreme Overlord

    So if you have a coin with a gold bean, why not re-submit for a higher grade? Isnt that in essence what a gold bean means, that CAC believes it is undergraded and would probably grade higher?
     
  14. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    In many instances you would net more by leaving the coin in the holder with the gold CAC sticker than if you spent the funds to have it regraded and sold at a higher grade.
     
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  15. bhaugh

    bhaugh AKA - 1872Hokie

    Since the Gold Bean means "at least a grade higher" in CAC's eyes, i think people hang onto the AT LEAST part and will pay more for the potential. That being said, I've seen even green bean stickered coins that had no place with the grade the TPG gave them, let along getting a sticker, but that is neither here nor there. In summation, I agree with Tom B.
     
  16. Hotpocket

    Hotpocket Supreme Overlord

    Silliness. Can't believe people pay for this nonsense. Why submit the coin to get a gold sticker when you can simply submit it for a higher grade...
     
  17. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    You read Tom B comment correct? Why leave money on the table? Check past auction results for the gold bean if you don't believe me, or Tom.
     
  18. Hotpocket

    Hotpocket Supreme Overlord

    Are you suggesting that average buyers would pay more money for a MS66 with a gold sticker than for an MS67 with no sticker all else being equal? I know I wouldn't.

    Are the re-grading fees compared with sticker fees that much higher to make up the difference in price for the grade? Sounds odd to me... you can get a modern coin like the Ike re-graded for $14. Yes, I know there is shipping, but I would bundle it in with other coins anyway.

    Just my opinion, but I don't see the value in submitting a coin to get a gold sticker when you could submit it for a higher grade. I guess I must be missing something.
     
  19. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Exactly. I wouldn't pay that kind of premium either (and I'm a CAC fanboy), but plenty do.

    Regrading is ~$30 a coin once you cook in insurance and shipping both way. CAC is ~ $16.00 once you cook in insurance and shipping both ways. (this depends on how many coin actually get stickered, and how many you are sending in at once)

    That part you are missing is that you can make more money with a gold CAC sticker (see above), as well as, you are getting another independent confirmation / validation of the original grade. So it's not just PCGS / NGC gradeflation over time, its another trusted / respected member of the coin community affirming the grade. Some people value JA opinion more than another round with the TPG.
     
  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I only ever owned one gold bean and I sold it.

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    Personally, I thought it was accurately graded at MS65FB.
     
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  21. bhaugh

    bhaugh AKA - 1872Hokie

    I don't think you're missing anything, I just think you're looking at the situation differently.
    I don't think most people are looking for a gold bean (although I'm sure some are). They are submitting their coins to get the grade confirmed by CAC. If it comes back with a gold sticker, you have a few options. Some people will opt to offload the gold sticker coin because it just got a huge premium boost. We all know that green stickers carry a premium, and gold stickers can really bring in the extra bucks.
    Like you mentioned Hotpocket, I would rather have the graded MS67 coin than a MS66 with a gold sticker. So I would fall in the category that would offload the stickered coin and buy the equivalent. But like i said, the buyers of these Gold Bean coins are hoping that that MS66 with a Gold Bean could be a MS67+ or even a MS68 if they resubmit it to a TPG. They are taking a risk, often paying a premium, and hoping it pans out. It's a gamble.
    The Ike I have that is gold beaned is more of a conversation piece in my collection. It is a starkly undergraded coin, and I got it for a fair price.
     
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