First Known Coin of Helena II

Helena II AR Heavy Siliqua. Uncertain mint, AD 360. 2.84g, 17mm, 5h.

FLAV MAX HELENA AVG, diademed and draped bust right, hair bound in bunch behind

AETERNITAS, Aeternitas standing left, holding globe and rudder set on ground line.

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Can you believe it? This coin is up for sale right now. There is more information there but I thought I'd tell you guys about it.

http://romanumismatics.com/auction/lot/1321/

 

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Ugh, that would be a crown jewel in my empress collection.

*Opens wallet, sees moths fly away, laughing*....."Sigh"......

 

Awesome score, Gil-gilad ........

... Mat, I'm sure that your day will come ...

 

Yeah, if a hoard of say...10,000 of these surfaces.

 

I need this coin too!!!, won't be bidding on this one, i didn't find 10mill in Gold or win the lotto..

 

Oh sorry, I see ... this coin is the Holy Grail for you chick-collecting dudes! (it must be kinda like the ancient zebra?)

=> good luck brothers => hey, maybe if you combine your wallets? (cheers)

 

Share a coin with somebody else? What heresy is this?

 

Well, you can buy it together ... tie your left hands together and then fight for the coin!! (kinda like last beer at a party, right?)

 

Oh wow! Yeah thats a hell of a find!

Edit: just saw the price XD

 

One thing's for certain: Jango always gets his coin...


(Jango is my nickname btw for those that don't know)

 

Be very careful, Jango ... tread lightly my friend

 

You would impale your buddy like that? I though we were friends steve!

(You'd never be able to catch the Fett-man anyways )

 

=> true enough, my friend ...

Jabba, the Steve

 

Im really surprised this coin isnt in a museum of some sort.

This coin is more interesting then an Eid Mar, to me, just because its gonna rewrite some roman history a bit & for now, only one around.

Ive kept a printout & a photo of this coin.

 

That is pretty cool. I wonder how an auction house even comes up with an estimate for a coin like this... not that it would matter if determined, deep-pocketed collectors end up getting into a bidding war over it.

But perhaps even more interesting - what would happen if a second example or third were to turn up soon after?

 

It would still command a premium. There is several examples Zenobia & Tranquillina Ants. around yet they still cost ALOT and rarely come to market.

 

I don't like it. I'd need to hear assessments from a bunch of other people who specialize in the period before I become a believer.

 

What don't you like about it?

 

Style, lack of mintmark, appearance of metal not consistent with silver coins of the period, reverse inappropriate for a living Augusta, letter shapes on two sides not matching - others?

I ask myself if I were in charge of the mint and was ordered to produce the first coins for the wife of the Emperor, how would those coins look? Assuming that they would be a unique reverse as used for Fausta, Helena, Theodora or Constantia, I would expect the coins to be similar in some ways to those issues. It is not. I ask why?