Is This PCGS Label Legit?

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  1. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/121271865772?nav=SEARCH

    The label looks white. I messaged the seller and asked if it was just the angle of the light. He said the label is a dark white. The certification number matches, but I haven't seen an all white PCGS Label before. Legit?

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  3. cpm9ball

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    The best person to answer your question would be Conder101. He has made a complete study of all the insert designs from most of the grading services.

    Chris
     
  4. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    The seller said it was a dark white label. Have you seen one of those?

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  5. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I don't think I've ever seen a label like that before.
     
  6. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It looks like an overexposed scan. The slab is fine. The slab generation is a PCGS 13 introduced around February, 2002. I do not know when they were discontinued, but I have in my notes that they likely went through November, 2004. Conder101 wrote the definitive book on TPG slabs and I use it extensively.
     
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  8. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Agree with you about the education part. But I disagree that your example label looks like the one the OP is asking about. Yours looks normal, the OP link looks unlike any label I've ever seen. Not saying it doesn't exist, just that I've never personally seen a extremely bright white label.
     
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  9. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but when a seller specifically says the label is white, I question it. We all know the blue labels.

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  10. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    I take it that's what the OP thought, and asked if it was. The reply is that it's "dark white", whatever that is.
     
  11. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    You are right on. That's why I started this thread. I thought it was overexposed. I asked the seller for more info on the true color, and he said dark white.

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  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I have never heard if PCGS plastic is UV transparent or not. No big worry as UV won't bother the coin much , but it could bleach he paper if it was and the slab was in a shop window for a period of time. However, that mentioned, I find it hard to imagine the blue saturation of the photo doesn't have something to do with it.
     
  13. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I did a quick fix, nothing great. Label still looks pure off white...

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  14. MAKECENTS

    MAKECENTS Active Member

    http://www.sampleslabs.com/pcgs.html

    Check out this page of PCgs holders some do have a whitish color to them, especially example 6,6.1 but I have actually never seen one that is white. It could also just be their exposure too on this page but the other styles seem true to color
     
  15. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Is there a book available? All I have in my kit are photocopies of a couple PDFs gleaned from the Internet a few years ago.
     
  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I sure wish Conder would come out with the next edition , but there's always the fear the Chinese crooks would just fix their mistakes .
     
  17. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I would think if that was the black text would appear faded.
     
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  18. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I have a copy of the first edition sitting on my desk as I type this, but it was published in 2003 and was likely printed in very limited numbers. The book is over 400-pages and is well worth buying, if you can find one.
     
  19. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    What is the actual title of Condor's book?
     
  20. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Third Party Grading/Certification Services & Slab/Certificate Varieties by Conder101, 2003. I do not recall what the book cost, but Conder101 was gracious enough to list me among the contributors, wrote a short note in the book and included a CD of the book with purchase.
     
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