Ok, light strike or rub

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jookey2003, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I would like to see a photo of the obverse of the OP'S coin.
     
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  3. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I think that the rim is the real clue since it appears well formed on the cent.
     
  4. Searcher64

    Searcher64 Member

    Could this be a capped coin? The outer areas of the coin seem to be cupped down. Or another way, the center is convexed.
     
  5. jookey2003

    jookey2003 Active Member

    The coin weighed in at 2.5
    Sorry for causing a stir in the forums. Ppl sometimes say I like to cause trouble. Its just usually the answers I get when I think I have something, is no its junk. Common, common no value

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  6. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Seeing as how the weight is normal, I would guess major struck through grease...but wait for the error experts for the final say.
     
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  7. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    In that case, that is one well lubricated penny.:) All greased up and nowhere to go.;)

    I've never seen anything like it.
     
  8. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking it was struck thru a late stage die cap
     
  9. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    IMO it is a struck though grease "error" .
     
  10. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    well a struck thru grease coin looks about the same as a struck thru very late stage die cap so I suppose this one is a struck thru coin either way. a struck thru grease coin is when lots of dust , metal shavings and all kinds of debris builds up on the die face and hardens almost like steel , it's actually not all grease at all and we use struck thru grease to describe it . this is also what a worn out die cap does , it couvers up some of the dies surface .
     
  11. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    I disagree, if it were a late stage struck through a capped die the entire design element would be disrupted . Dependent on the stage of the cap the design would be stronger or weaker all over.It would not be stronger in one part & weaker in another.

    But this is not the beast we are talking about. The reverse dies are the anvil dies & the obverse die is the hammer .The anvil die sits in a collar. For a struck through a capped die strike to appear it would be of the obverse of a coin not the reverse. If it were a late stage the reverse would most likely show a bit more strength of detail due to the extra pressure of the strike.
     
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  12. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I don't think this is struck through a die cap, but I'm not sure that the assertion that the obverse die was the hammer die can be stated with certainty. Unless you know something that I'm not aware of.

    http://www.error-ref.com/inverted-dioe-installation.html
     
  13. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Well it has happened but not to a point where it is common place. I see the U.S. Mint's site states that "usually" the obverse die is the hammer die & the reverse is the anvil. So there is a chance but albeit a small once More fact has been shown that the hammer die is the obverse than not.
    The current production press for the cent is Schuler MRH 150 Coining Press . It is a horizontal press (still with a hammer & anvil die) It takes 35 tons of pressure to strike the cent & according to my source still uses the obverse as the hammer die.
     
  14. jookey2003

    jookey2003 Active Member

    Wow, I never thought I'd get this kind of a response. If there is any other info, or pictures that would help I will do. I appreciate all of the help. For once I might have something... exciting.....
     
  15. jookey2003

    jookey2003 Active Member

    Wow, I never thought I'd get this kind of a response. If there is any other info, or pictures that would help I will do. I appreciate all of the help. For once I might have something... exciting.....
     
  16. jookey2003

    jookey2003 Active Member

    Im no expert by any means but how about "Die adjustment strike" for the pressure?
     
  17. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    That's one thing I thought of when I saw your first photos then after seeing the obverse photo I abandoned this thought. If it had been a die adjustment strike both sides would have been struck with the same amount of pressure.
     
  18. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    How long have you been collecting and studying error coins ? I'm betting on a beginning collector that is trying to google his information. none of this information in this post of yours is totally true.
     
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  19. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Yep , Im a beginner . No real world experience at all .
    Peace -
     
  20. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Nothing wrong with that , everyone has to try to learn when starting out and folks here on CT is good to learn from. where you said ; { I disagree, if it were a late stage struck through a capped die the entire design element would be disrupted } what happens with a worn out die cap is parts of it wears out and the die becomes cleared again in areas where the cap wore completely away from the die. other areas of the die that are still covered by the super thin remnants of the cap will disrupt the design elements.
     
  21. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    I was being very sarcastic with you . I have been a member here since 2006, professional numismatist since 2007. I have contributed on and posted many relevant threads on the site but please judge. Took a break here from posting over the years .


    Peace
     
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