1964 Lincoln Cent Clash?

Really Tommy...accusing me of doubting every coin you post? I am just giving my opinion, and it just happens to be different than yours. I understand that it is the same size as the D from UNITED. That doesn't rule out the fact that it could be a contact mark from another coin, as each coin has the same size D in UNITED. Mike brings up some good points about your coin. I am not definitively saying that it is or it isn't a dropped letter, just that I have my doubts and I think it may require an in-hand look to truly confirm.

 

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How though? its the same position as the D from UNITED0n the obverse rotation and everything. what are the chances of that happening? a billion to 1. a contact mark that deep and precise? do You know the amount of pressure that would take? take 2 pennies and squeeze them together with a vise grip and You wont even get the slightest indentation. this is not a contact mark. show me 1 cent or coin where You seen a contact mark like this.

 

I guess you have never seen a "squeeze job" before where 2 coins are squeezed together in a vise. It really doesn't take that much pressure to leave a noticeable impression. Take the following picture for example. It was squeezed together with another one. Notice that, as you stated in post #40, the details are sharp and deep. Instead of a transfer of multiple elements, it is entirely possible that contact with another coin only transferred one part of the reverse design. So the odds are not even remote as a billion to 1. Do you know the likelihood of a dropped element appearing on the opposite side of a coin? Slim. Not a billion to 1, but still probably a bit less likely than a coin that has a similar looking contact mark.


In addition, I don't think the fact that the D is directly opposite from where it appears on the obverse has any relation to a dropped letter error. They can essentially appear on any part of the coin.

I would love to see the coin sent in, and I would love to be proven wrong. It adds to my knowledge of what to look for and what to expect when searching. I am only giving my opinion on the coin, what I am stating is not fact. It is just an educated guess based on my previous knowledge of the minting process.

 

Ok what does that prove that this is a dropped letter coin! so why isnt the rest of the letters there from UNITED are on my cent if its a contact mark? how would a contact mark leave ONE LETTER? that coin You showed shows alot of the Obverse. if it was a contact mark why only ONE LETTER? there is no damage to my cent no marks on the rim or nothing just a D that is in the exact same position and rotation on the obverse.

 

Just adding some more info.

Tommy, here is another coin that shows what appears to be the IN of IN GOD as a dropped element on Lincoln's vest. Notice it is incuse, relatively sharp, and does not contain any other details other than the 2 letters. However, this coin was determined to be simply a contact mark from another coin and not a dropped letter.

For what it's worth, I still think you should send your coin in. I haven't seen a good dropped letter error in a while and if this were one it would be pretty nice.

 

I appreciate Your info but the D on my cent is very crisp.
I am going to send this 1 in Im in the process of moving but
soon as I settle in I will send it off I uploaded a full view of both sides of the cent and
I wrote it was a 1964 its actually a 1968. all those pictures You posted shows contact marks on
other parts of the cent mine doesnt not on the rim or anywhere I find it very hard to believe that there is no evidence of other letters in that area.

 

How do you describe the dimensional/shape differences of the D in god from the d in united?

 

You should know just by looking at a cent yourself, the differences are obvious enough my friend.

 

So then you pass.

 

The thing is, a dropped letter -- especially one positioned on the opposite face -- should not occupy the same position as its normal raised counterpart. Its position should be more or less random. You can send it along, if you wish. Please contact me using my e-mail address.

 

Thanks mike will do.

You are right cause I layered The pictures of the cent and the D is a bit offset.

I've uploaded the layered picture of the cent Below.

 

frozen again, outside wall, left water running, but doesn't matter, air temp. -17

 

Now that is cold and it is hard to keep the pipes from freezing when it's that cold. I hate that code the Govt. came up with where water pipes has to be inside the walls. this is just a disaster waiting to happen. when a pipe bursts it costs a fortune to fix the home and the leak. I say leave them exposed so they are easy to get too to thaw out and fix the leaks. Rick maybe it will warm up before long.

 

I never saw a code requiring pipes to be in the walls, do you have a reference to that? Is it just your state? Thanks rascal.

 

Poor Rick

 

took the blower-dryer to the open pipes in the ceiling, its running again

 

Why is this being talked about on this thread? this thread is about a 1968 Lincoln Memorial cent not busted pipes! start this conversation on your own thread Rick. Thanks!

 

Agitation...it's what's for dinner!

 

theres no agitation here I dont think this thread is the place to be talking about busted pipes. I asked rick a question about a coin and he responded about a busted pipe. kind of threw me in left field.. I think people are responding about my cent and I look and they talking about busted pipes are You serious?

 

I got a question for you can You show me a picture of A Cent that makes the contact marks on another Cent? Since it sort of acts like a Die when pressed against another cent. I thought a die would be stronger than copper and zinc. its amazing to me that soft metals such as zinc and copper can make the same deep impressions on a coin with almost the same strength as a DIE. I would like to see how the coin looks that made these contact marks. Do You have any pictures of a Coin that made the contact marks on another cent?