1924 Peace dollar VAM Identification

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  1. Ed Sims

    Ed Sims Well-Known Member

    I recently purchased a BU 1924 Peace dollar and was curious to see which VAM it might be. I can't find any of the reverse diagnostics on any of the 1924 Peace dollars on VAMworld.

    The obverse has doubling in the rays of the tiara. There is a die crack running across the lower neck of the bust of Liberty. A raised dot between the T of TRVST and the rim.

    The reverse has a long die gouge extending upward from the shoulder of the eagle. a die gouge in the rays above the O in DOLLAR and a die scratch in the rays to the right of the leaves.
     

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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Your photos are just too fuzzy to really make out anything clearly. If you could get clearer shots, and remove the red arrows, we could see things better.
     
  4. Lucky Cuss

    Lucky Cuss Cobrador de Plata

    The spike above the eagle's wing is from a clashed die, and is considered to be fairly common. I think the other flaws you describe on the reverse are due to the same cause.
     
  5. Ed Sims

    Ed Sims Well-Known Member

    VAMworld does not mention any clashed dies with these diagnostics yet they do picture several die gouges on many varieties with no mention of them being the result of a clashed die.

    Here's a clearer picture of the reverse which shows the die gouge below DOLLAR and to the right of the leaves. The die gouge in the rays above the O in Dollar and the bright white line extending up from the eagle's shoulder is another die gouge. It can't be from a clashed die as it is on the opposite end of the coin from the rays of the tiara and there isn't anything on the obverse in that location which could have caused this.

    The two obverse close-ups show the die crack at the bottom of Liberty's neck and the second one shows the raised dot between the T of TRVST and the rim. I couldn't get a shot of the rays of the tiara after many attempts without the flash going off or glare from the table lamp.
     

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  6. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    That spot next to the T, if it's raised it could be a die gouge dot.
     
  7. Lucky Cuss

    Lucky Cuss Cobrador de Plata

    Or a pit from rust on the die.

    I don't want to be argumentative, but I looked this up to be sure, and I think you need to see p. 273 in Van Allen & Mallis. I just don't think there can be any doubt that at least this one anomaly has been definitively documented as the result of a clash. The others may well be owing to die cracks that have been previously unidentified.
     
  8. Ed Sims

    Ed Sims Well-Known Member

    Then chill out.

    If I had a Van Allen & Mallis book I would look it up but I don't. All I have to go by is what is on VAMworld.com and if their website isn't as complete as the VAM book what is a person to do? I am not a silver dollar collector, I buy silver dollars from a gold and silver buyer cheap and resell them at a local flea market. Sometimes I take the time to see whether or not there may be a scarce VAM variety. This is one of those times. I collect type coins, especially the Liberty Seated types.
     
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