Trade dollars, Scene 2

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dougmeister, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Ok. Unslabbed from a local dealer who will guarantee the authenticity. XF, no problems for $220.

    1) Concerns about it being a fake?
    2) is it a good deal?

    Thanks.

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  3. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    harshly cleaned
     
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  4. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Well-Known Member

    Not sure on the value of this coin but I agree with bkozak. While its wear is minimal it looks like someone took a brillo pad this this otherwise beautiful specimen. That really hurts the grade and value... I would buy it for less then what an XF is worth. However, im not an expert and it might grade higher if it were for the cleaning.
     
  5. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    You seem to be really interested in a trade dollar, why not spring for a nice graded coin?
     
  6. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Bad deal as the coin is cleaned. Did your dealer mention that?
     
  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    ...or did he actually say "XF, no problems" ?
     
  8. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Wow I can't believe I didn't see that in the shop it's rather obvious in my photo isn't it
     
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    BHPM Trader Active Member

  10. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    If you're looking to just buy a real one that looks nice, check ebay for ones with chop marks that are graded. You can find those for roughly >$200 and the chop marks give it some history.....
     
  11. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

  12. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    No worries, that happens... sometimes pictures reveal hairlines and marks we don't spot with the naked eye!
     
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  13. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    As has been mentioned, that coin has seen the working end of a Brillo pad.
     
  14. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Did you buy it? Or photograph it at the shop?
     
  15. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Photo at the shop.
     
  16. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    good move
     
  17. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    I'm learning... Slowly, but I'm learning.
     
  18. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I disagree.
    IMO all those lines you're seeing in the fields are from die polishing.
    I don't see the lines crossing over the devices although the design is busy enough that I'd need a closer look.
    But more importantly the lines run right up to the devices.
    Abrasive cleaning generally leaves an untouched "halo" around the devices.
     
  19. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    We may have to agree to disagree. I believe there are hairlines across the scroll on the reverse, into Ms. Liberty's neck and down her right arm.
     
  20. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Very harshly cleaned but genuine I'd stay away I just sent my 2 raw ones off to getgraded as it'll be an easier sell
     
  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Tortured. Not only cleaned, but done with an abrasive. Why don't you get a nice coin in a slab? We keep telling you to do that, from a reputable dealer.
     
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