Value of a double strike

Yesterday a guy came in with a number of coins, 1 in particular that I wanted but we could not agree on a price as I did not know what would be fair.

The coin was in a PCGS holder, graded in the 20 range. It was a double struck cent dated 191x D/S. He said he would come back so I know I will get it eventually but I am just curious what a fair price would be? Sorry I do not have pictures.

 

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That would be an over mint mark, or OMM, and the only one I know of from that date range would be the 1911 D/S, but it wouldn't have been attributed by PCGS because it's not a recognized Cherry Picker's or Red Book variety. The only service I know that would slab it would be ANACS with either the Wexler or Coppercoins #.

 

And if I'm not mistaken, I think CONECA lists that one as an RPM-5 and not an OMM.

 

It is not an OMM, it is a double strike as in 2 of everything offset. The X in the date meaning that the last number of the date is not visible, and the D/S mean that the MM is not visible either.

 

This is just the first example that I found on google but you get the point. The secondary image is not as strong but it is visible to the naked eye.

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=422&lotIdNo=90011

 

I see. D/S is used numismatically to designate an over mint mark, so I thought you were talking about that.

 

Yeah, they apparently don't see it as an OMM.

 

I would be inclined to think the same thing jallen, but I did not see any MM on the coin with either strike. I am just telling you what the holder said.

 

a double struck cent is a pretty rare find. but i don't know of a double struck cent with two different mint-marks. my guess is a fake or a super expensive coin.

 

http://www.lincolncentresource.com/Errors/Double_Strike.html




Images of double struck LMC from the link I posted above.

 

Yes BU, but this coin was of normal size and both images were clear. Just off set like the Ike I posted above. I offered him$100, just because I wanted it. He wanted $200 but I did not want to give it to him without some barometer of price.

 

Since you can see the zinc, this is a pretty recent double strike. Ones from the early 1900s are quite rare and 200 dollars would be a great buy, assuming it is real. Having two mintmarks on a double strike though concerns me, as it is exceedingly rare.

 

If it isn't stretched, I suppose it could possibly be a double struck in collar. That's what the "D/S" would denote in this case. Haggle a bit and see if you can get it for less than $200, it should be a decent buy either way.

 

Noob, please follow along. The coin was dated 191X meaning from 1910-1919 (PCGS could not tell). I am not sure if the D/S means it had both mint marks (I did not see any) or if they could not tell what the MM was.

 

If PCGS says it's a D/S, it's a D/S, they wouldn't say that if they couldn't tell what the mint mark is.

 

Well, not really! Are you forgetting that 2003 Lincoln that PCGS originally said was an MS70? J/K!

Chris

 

The D/S does denote that it's double struck, it doesen't have anything to do with the mint mark. Whether it's double struck in the collar or if the second strike is out of the collar would make for a difference in value. We need more info.

 

It is double stuck in the collar. The most prominent strike is offset to the point where the date only reads 191 an the second strike the date is lost in Lincolns head. Main strike has shifted right enough to lose the last number of the date and the weak strike is to the left and rotated up, the date is lost in Lincolns head of the strong strike.

 

Here are a couple examples. http://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Ntk=SI_Titles&Ne=304&N=51+790+231+328&Ntt=double+struck

 

The initial post made me think it was a denver coin struck with a sf coin. That wasn't entirely clear for me early on. A double struck cent in the collar is rare but not exceptionally so. Heritage auctions would have a good idea of value as menace notes.