1942 Lincoln cent error reverse No A

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  1. Buckrogers

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  3. ldhair

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    Filled die.
     
  4. Buckrogers

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    Gonna have 2 look that one up ;) Thanks
     
  5. ldhair

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    The A on the die was filled with grease or junk.
     
  6. Buckrogers

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    Right on Any clue what one like this is worth
     
  7. ldhair

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    Sorry but it's worth very little. It's really common.
     
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  9. Jral1

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    Buckrogers If you think about ''filled die's'' filled with greese or gunk as most say. Then you could imagen that a piece of a defective plachet or even the surface of the coin srtuck right before this coin could have liffed off and 'FILLED' the die. That to me would make it more interesting then ''Greese filled die'' or ''Gunk filled" douncha think?
     
  10. rascal

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    regardless of how the letter A got filled in on the coin die it is the same thing " a filled in letter " struck thru grease is a common term used by error collectors .
     
  11. Jral1

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    That also could be a reason why ghost like letters or numbers are seen in the surface of coins. Plus that could be a reason why somtimes the mint mark appears to be doubled as well as on individual letters and numbers because the piece that was lifted off falls off the die or sticks in the letter of the die and is impressed onto the next plachet coined. That definatly makes these more interesting then i ever thought!
     
  12. Jral1

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    It could also be another reason or the real reason for some of the coins that have the whole motto doubled or other devises/words . I have seen some coins missing the whole motto and then another that has what looks like two motto's or a''doubled die'' as they say . lol if it was a doubled die there would be many more of them or at least more of them or none at all cause they would have scraped the whole batch rather then picking them out by hand. I find it hard to believe a mint worker could mis the doubling during inspection process and not realize it untill some coins are made. If they didnt see it during the intense scrutiny every die goes through why would they find it on the coins when they dont inspect them as thoroughly I hope noone has lost their job over this kind of thing thinking they were made intentionally cause this i believe could a different way doubling could happen either way they are really cool this just makes more sense to me and could refine the whole world of coin doubling at least for me and my understanding of it. Believe what you want I dgas. LOL
     
  13. Jral1

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    Id call it dry die design pickup and transfer doubling. lol this is fun!
     
  14. non_cents

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    I'm not sure if you're serious, but you do realize that multiple examples of the same doubled die exist, right? Just look at any of the major doubled dies...1955, 1972, 1983, etc. There are thousands of near-identical examples that have been attributed not only by identical doubling, but by die markers that are present on the coins. Workers at the mint do not examine every single coin, so there are thousands of doubled dies that escape.
    On the other side of that, there are definitely cases where a mint worker discovered a strong doubled die on a coin and took the die responsible out of service.

    Believe what you want, but when you say things like your theory is the actual explanation for what we see as doubled dies, you are just starting to sound borderline absurd. Plus, this thread is about something completely different, a struck-through error. Take your doubling theories to a relevant thread instead of posting them in a thread that has nothing to do with them.
     
  15. rascal

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    When a filled in letter of a coin die comes loose and falls out of the die sometimes this lands on a new planchet , the dies pushes it into the planchet when striking the coin . then it leaves a perfect sunken in impression of the dropped letter or mumber on the new coin. I collect the dropped letter coins and it is extremely hard to find a genuine one. the reason they are scarce is that most times the gunk that had the die filled in breaks apart into tiny pieces when falling out of the die.
     
  16. Jral1

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    One way i can see it happening on the reverse which is usually used as the anvil die is the design was picked up by a dry/non sticky anvil die or defective planchet from one coin creating a hollow shell/fully filled area of the design picked up inside the incuse part of the die then when the next coin was struck it imparted a normal design then the coin rotated a bit when the hammer die lifted/bounced up a bit and the retained lettering fell off/came out and was bumped again by the ejection mechanism causeing it to be impressed onto or formed/molded around/next to the lettering without being obliterated completely
     
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  17. Jral1

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    As well as just about as many if not more missing letters/words/designs commonly called filled dies!
     
  18. Jral1

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    I didnt say nothing for sure i said another cause possibly if not the real cause. Question everything or figure out nothing. acceptence is a boring bliss.
     
  19. Jral1

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    I use terms like "i think", 'i guess", ''could be" 'maybe" because those are some terms commonly found in good theories. prove me wrong then or settle for what you have been told.
     
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  21. Jral1

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    It could also just stick and be pulled out of the die and be left in perfect condition on the next planchet with the exception or possibility of some distortion around that because of the extra pressure imparted in that area with the lack on hollow space inside the filled devise or it might show fissure lines around the design boarders. Or can cause just a faint impression/weak strike of the devise that is filled which is another common effect.
     
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