Let's see your exonumia!

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  1. Circus

    Circus Tokens Only !! TEC#4981

    Looks pretty good, and it does look a lot better out of the buckle.
     
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  3. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    How are you my old friend? It's been awhile since I heard from you. I hope all is well with you and yours. Back in the states yet?
    I'm with Circus on this one Chris, has the look of a gaming token. The swan pictorial may represent the name of the establishment where it's used...Swan Casino or something similar. Not unusual in the counterstamp "world" to see this type of thing. Great piece with an interesting story I'm sure.

    Bruce
     
  4. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Love to see your stuff yarm. Plenty of history there.

    Bruce
     
  5. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    I was interested in some similar french "medals" that were uniface other than a large number stamped on the reverse. These were on eBay a couple years ago. I asked the seller what they were, and his response was that they were attached to book spines at one time. No idea if that was correct, or whether it applies to yours...

    Good to see you around, Krispy
     
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  6. Wehwalt

    Wehwalt Well-Known Member

    Jonah1.jpg Jonah2.jpg Johah3.jpg This is an art medal produced by the Israeli Government Coins and Medals. I am Jewish, and used to be actively involved (I ceased after I found my former rabbi was little minded to render to the IRS that which is the IRS's) and one Yom Kippur afternoon I read the book of Jonah, in Hebrew, which is the reading for the prophets for Yom Kippur afternoon and given you've not eaten or drunk in 23 hours by then, is an endurance contest, and I bought this in commemoration of that (good thing I kept it and didn't donate it) The Hebrew is translated on the base, if you want the transliteration, it is "vahyahkei et-Yonah el hayabashah".
     
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  7. Wehwalt

    Wehwalt Well-Known Member

    Not many, probably. Given this and the "cancelled" two mark pieces I saw (if you turn in DM coins, they put it through rollers before it leaves the premises), I'm guessing someone had access to interesting trash somewhere in the German financial system.
     
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  8. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Thanks Circus and Bruce for the ideas about what my piece may have been. Great ideas I wouldn't have imagined.

    Bruce, I'm still in 'outer space' but looking at a return a bit later in the new year. All is good and well here! Best wishes for the New Year to all.:)
     
  9. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Thanks Dave. I'm glad to get these new tips and thoughts on what possibly these could be. I've had this piece about 3 years now and still unsure but ideas here are very compelling possibilities. Regards.
     
  10. Wehwalt

    Wehwalt Well-Known Member

    RB1.jpg rb2.jpg
    I'm not quite sure what this is. It's in a bag of British tokens and cheap medals I bought some years ago. Just larger than a quarter, and copper, and plainly it's seen some wear. I'd think old pennies would be the denomination. (i.e. 1 1/2 d)
     
  11. Wehwalt

    Wehwalt Well-Known Member

    sutler1.jpg sutler.jpg This is also from that bag of tokens etc. The inscription seems clear enough, "BIGGER/36 BOLTON STREET/SUTLER/DUBLIN". It's on a Irish penny piece. I looked at my 19th century edition of Krause's, and those pennies were struck in 1822 and 1823.
     
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  12. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Your "Bigger" counterstamp is listed in Brunk as B-655 in the section for British tokens Wehwalt. John Bigger was a cutler at 36 Bolton (and 41 Bolton) from 1836 to 1843. There are four varieties of his stamp known. The captions on the other three reads as follows.

    "BIGGER / BOLTON STREET / CUTLER / DUBLIN"
    with another merchant's stamp on the other side of the coin. "JAS IRELAND/BELFAST" Ireland was an ironmonger in Belfast from 1819 to 1846. He was also a copper and tin plate manufacturer and japanner. It's possible these two men knew each other or had a business accommodation of some sort. The two stamps are struck on a 1797 English Cartwheel Penny.

    "BIGGER/CUTLER/5 N. KING ST/DUBLIN" It's not known when Bigger worked at this address. This stamp is also known on a 1797 Cartwheel Penny.

    "BIGGER/DUBLIN" There are four examples of this stamp documented. Three are on 1797 Cartwheel Pennies and a fourth on an unspecified Penny Token.

    Nice old historical piece. Thanks for showing it.

    Bruce
     
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  13. Wehwalt

    Wehwalt Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I guess it wasn't as clear (cutler/sutler) as I thought! Does it say anything interesting about this version?

    A ha'penny for it?
    1987 hapenny obv.jpg

    Oh, wait, they went to decimalisation in 1971!

    1987 hapenny rev.jpg

    I also have a farthing of similar design and also dated 1987. This is all from the bag of tokens.
     
  14. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Your "Bigger" stamp is documented on only one coin that I know of Wehwalt. In Brunk he notes the coin type as "uncertain". This may be the same coin that you have, but more likely yours is a second example. I'll report yours to him so he can add it to his upcoming new edition.

    Bruce
     
  15. Wehwalt

    Wehwalt Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I appreciate it. I'll upload the image to Wikimedia Commons later today so he can use the image freely.
     
  16. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I just now e-mailed Greg Brunk and reported your, apparently, new example of a "Bigger" counterstamp. I also asked him if he had any updated information, since what's in his book dates back to 2003. I'll let you know if he has anything new to report.

    Bruce
     
  17. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Koebbe 1.JPG Koebbe 2.JPG This a pretty cool saloon token I picked up about 10 years ago at the WESPENEX coin show.
    I must have researched this back then because I noted on my 2x2 that Koebbe's place was located in St. Louis c1890-1914. The token is aluminum and a bit better for wear but still interesting. The writing on the reverse bottle says "Old Lynch Rye" if you can't read it. Apparently, Koebbe sold the concoction as the brand itself was manufactured by Lynch & Co. I believe they were also located in St. Louis but I'm not sure.

    Bruce
     
  18. Wehwalt

    Wehwalt Well-Known Member

    Thanks. I've uploaded the image to Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bigger_countermark.jpg
     
  19. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Tic 1.JPG Tic 2.JPG Gates 1.JPG Gates 2.JPG I have a small collection of ship christening medals and wanted to post them for you to see. If anyone else has any please post them.

    Bruce
     
  20. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    My ship was christened long before I got to it. But here's the ship's patch. Held up alot better than jacket did. CAM01085.jpg
     
  21. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

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