Cleaning silver coins with vinegar (1941, 1942, 1942D, 1943D, and 1944 quarters)

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bugo, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. bugo

    bugo Well-Known Member

    Warning to purists: Skip this thread because I cleaned coins. I don't want to hear it.

    I wanted some junk silver coins just so I could hear the way they sound when they are jiggled together. That sound is music to my ears. I placed an ad, and bought them off a fellow forum member (john1942sept, who is an asset to this forum and I highly recommend him) for $20. They were badly corroded as the pictures attest. They were immersed in water in 1944 and some of the rust got on the coins. I tried several different methods for removing the gunk, but none of them worked. I decided to try the vinegar method, which I didn't think would work. I soaked them overnight and was shocked that most of the corrosion was gone! I sent John a picture of the after pictures and he said that some of them are almost MS (I'm no expert on coin conditions) and that some of them are worth $20 or so. The only bad thing is that they turned out so nice that I'm going to put them in cardboard holders instead of jiggling them together. The 1943-D quarter still has some gunk on it, and the 1942 has a little gunk on the rim of the coin, but the improvement is staggering. I highly recommend this procedure for coins that are badly corroded. Flame me if you want, but I ended up with 5 nice quarters for a great price and turned 5 quarters that were in terrible shape into presentable coins. Thanks again, John.

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  3. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Warning to janitors and maids everywhere. This is not the janitorial or maid cleaning tips and results forum. Write about your cleaning hobby and you will hear it (especially if you present crap as "almost MS").;)

    I'm afraid that you may have butchered these nice coins. Silver corrodes at such a slow pace, I can safely say, your coins were nowhere near being corroded. You now appear to have whizzed coins, nowhere near MS. Believe it or not, they would have stayed in "as is" condition, in my hands. At least until I could find an appropriate source to properly dip them for me. I find the before pictures much more appealing than the after. Wouldn't pay a dime for what's in the after photos. Makes me a bit sad.
     
  4. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    deleted. I don't wish to be banned from this site. I will now use the ignore function for the first time.
     
  5. bugo

    bugo Well-Known Member

    LOL. I knew you would spin it negatively. Oh well. I'm happy with them.
     
  6. Evan_76

    Evan_76 New Member

    I think if this were a door knob and not coins, I would say nice cleaning job. But these aren't door knobs.

    The toning on the original coins weren't very attractive, but today ugly MS toning is preferred over cleaned coins with lifeless surfaces. Would the resulting coins, 50 years ago, be considered BU?
     
  7. jamorse_99

    jamorse_99 Junior Member

    Just tell people they were dropped in vinegar in 1944 accidentally after news of the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor reached the owner.
     
  8. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    If you're happy with them, fine. Keep it to yourself, though. I wouldn't want a newbie to destroy their coins thinking that any of your methods are acceptable to the rest of the numismatic community.

    And NO, they are not nice coins. Sorry for the negativity, but it's warranted here.
     
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  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Vinegar contains a few percent of acetic acid. What you did was form iron acetate.
    As most know, acid is extremely damaging to coins. EDTA is a better choice for removing rust stains from coins.
     
  10. Evan_76

    Evan_76 New Member

    Retone them?

    Just kidding. Don't become a coin doctor.
     
  11. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Well, you can always enlighten us with the positive spin on this travesty, at the risk of coming across like a bit of a head case (to put it mildly).:(
     
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  12. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    " . . .Flame me if you want, but I ended up with 5 nice quarters for a great price and turned 5 quarters that were in terrible shape into presentable coins. . . "

    Vinegar Method - did you use white vinegar or regular vinegar?
    Straight or diluted?
     
  13. bugo

    bugo Well-Known Member

    I'm not selling these coins so I don't care about value. I like the way they look and that's all that matters.

    Is it bad to soak dateless buffalo nickels in vinegar?
     
  14. ROLLJUNKIE

    ROLLJUNKIE Active Member

    Is it bad to soak dateless buffalo nickels in vinegar?[/quote]

    HA. Do you care if it's bad?
     
  15. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable


    Where does the iron come from?
     
  16. Evan_76

    Evan_76 New Member

    I like to fill the s proof slots in my Whitman nickel book with the dateless buffalo nickels I find. Clean coins with water, vinegar is for french fries.
     
  17. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Who will you be presenting them to, Apu down at the Kwiki-Mart? I'm sure he'll be impressed.


    You should get in touch with the guy with the rock tumbler and compare notes. You could certainly teach each other something new.
     
  18. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    You guys are tough. However, Bugo, I like the results. Using those two sets of photos, and listing them on eBay, I would guarantee the "cleaned" set of coins would sell at a higher price (which merely proves the mentality of some eBay buyers). Remember, this comment is coming from someone who grew up in an era when harshly cleaning coins was acceptable...;)
     
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  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Bugo, I have no problem with you doing what you did. Never have had, they are your coins and you can do as you wish.

    This is what I have a problem with -

    I'm sorry but that simply isn't true. Take the '42-D you mentioned. In MS64 it is worth about $35, about $40 in MS65.

    Every coin you've got there is well worn, nowhere near even AU let alone MS. And every coin is a problem coin. That makes them worth about melt value, that's $3.67 at current rates. That is not negativity, that is honesty.

    I just don't want you fooling yourself into thinking the coins are worth more than they really are.
     
  20. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Yep, worth melt, before and after. Jiggle away.
     
  21. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    All told, that's only $1.65 & a little vinegar down the hole . . . not bad for a newbie.
     
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