King Herod's Grandson Agrippa I Judean, 37-44 AD, Prutah and100BC Seleucia

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  1. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    I recently picked these two coins up what do you think their worth and are they good and how rare are they thanks for your opinion in advance !!
     

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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Very nice acquisitions. The Seleucid certainly has enough detail to render a specific attribution. Check Wildwinds. It's a great piece, and one that I'd be happy to have in my collection.

    I don't know enough about prutoh to say anything about the Judaean piece, but my understanding is that you've got to be very careful about forgeries. I have a dealer acquaintance that travels to Israel every year to stock his store, and he claims a huge number of these coins are fake. You wouldn't think such scrappy little coins would be counterfeited, but there's an enormous market for them among non-collectors because of their Biblical association, ie., Jesus' story of the widow's mite.

    Evidently, many of these coins are reproduced en masse as tourist mementos, and they are made so well that it's difficult to discern an authentic piece from a fake. My friend won't buy any unless he can trace their provenance to a specific hoard. Now whether this is all true or just part of his sales schtick is another question...
     
  4. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    Thanks John i like both of the coins at lot do you know anybody who would be able to tell if the coin is a original ?? would ngc be able to tell ?? also i got the coin from you today and it is as good as expected !!! I want to thank you very much !!
     
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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Hey man, I'm glad you like it!

    As far as the Judaean goes, I would suggest joining FORVMANCIENTCOINS here...

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php

    You can post the coin in the authentication forum. FAC is attended by a number of collectors who have an enormous amount of expertise. I wouldn't be surprised if there were two or three guys that specialize in Judaean, and could tell you about your coin at first glance. FORVM also maintains a large database of fake coin reports, and there are a number of pinned threads that teach you how to spot the telltale signs of forgery. It's really an invaluable service to collectors of ancients - nothing else like it on the internet.
     
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  6. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very nice coins, i buy my prutah's with the Daivd Hendin attach to it..they can be pricey if you get good details and well centering...
     
  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    both good lookin' really. i'm no expert and can't tell if authentic, but if it's a fake, it is a pretty well done one. the obverse picture is upside down (it's an umbrellla...type thing).

    here's mine..

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    yours looks nicer! but not they are both dated year 6 (little sybmol right of barley) of agrippa's rule.
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sean the Coin Collector => those are two great lookin' new coins!! (congrats)

    ... here is my Prutah example ...

    Herod Agrippa I AE Prutah

    Date: 41-42 AD
    Diameter: 17.2 mm
    Weight: 2.5 grams
    Obverse: Canopy, legend around
    Reverse: Three ears of grain



    Judaea Herod Agrippa AE Prutah b.jpg Judaea Herod Agrippa AE Prutah a.jpg
     
  9. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    Thanks all for posting your examples i am just getting into ancient collecting and really got started because of some help from John Anthony he is really a great guy !! Also can somebody help with some more info on the Seleucia i dont know to much about it let me know ! Thanks again
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I see no reason to doubt the Agrippa but these are not my specialty either. As you can tell from the fact so many of us had one, these are common but being mentioned in the Bible will turn a $5 coin into a $25 coin. Yours is not high grade but still collectible to many people. I know less about the Seleucid AE but agree it should be identifiable by someone who knows them and see no reason to doubt it either.
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  11. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I don't collect these but interesting and nice coins guys.
     
  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Both are neat coins!
     
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