Just sent these in.... What do you think? Peace Dollars!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jtbull, Nov 20, 2013.

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What would the "average" grade of the two coins I just posted be?

  1. AU - 58 AND BELOW

    22 vote(s)
    88.0%
  2. MS60-62

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  3. MS63-64

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. MS65-MS66

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  5. MS66+

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  1. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    sorry, a waste of money.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Agreed.
     
  4. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    These are what would be commonly known as "junk silver" and sold raw for values closely tied to their silver content. This will be an expensive lesson given the cost of certification, shipping and insurance is likely to be as much as the value of the coins. However, you can also learn from this experience. I might suggest that next time you have someone with experience look at the coins prior to submission.
     
  5. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    You can search CoinTalk for threads that include "Guess the grade" in the thread title. Several of these threads include good quality photographs and they demonstrate how the grade is an opinion that may vary from person to person. Normally in these threads, the grade from the Third Party Grading (TPG) company is also posted. (Even the TPG grade is nothing more than opinion). It can be fun & educational to view the threads especially when they apply to coin types that are in your collection. I'm sorry to report that IMO your two coins are commonly called "sliders" that are sometimes cleaned bright & shiny and sold as higher grade examples.

    Have fun & welcome to CoinTalk.
     
  6. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I still think that a lot can be learned from this experience...so it's not a total waste of money. It's like any other education tuition.
     
  7. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    All the surfaces look cleaned to me. I agree with AU details: Improperly Cleaned
     
  8. rush2112

    rush2112 Junior Member

    Don't feel bad, took me a while to tell a super nice Peace dollar from an average one, first thing I look at now is the Ladies hair. I stick all my nice ones in the 2" x 2" coin capsules with the black backing, they look great and don't take up much room.
     
  9. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Yeah, that's my guess. It would take a heck of a Peace dollar for me to want to submit it. Might try it with a 1921 high relief but that's about it. If it was awesome. Honestly, you would have been money ahead to buy these in MS64 already slabbed.

    How many shows have you been to, to look a these in person? Like many other hobbies, you really need to see how good something can possibly get before believing you can appropriately judge the quality of any given item. You need to know what is really good. When you see MS65 and 66 Peace dollars in person, you know what they can be.

    Even though your examples are shiny, and may look quite good, in the harsh world of coin grading, they're a long way from these higher grades. Most likely not even MS.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    OK, what joker voted '66 plus in the poll You've a serious amount of learning to achieve.........
     
  11. ClarkCoins

    ClarkCoins Member

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  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Shoot Clark! It didn't occur to me that folks most uninitiated wouldn't be unable to view the link. Thanks Bro.....:)
     
  13. ClarkCoins

    ClarkCoins Member

    Lol no worries :) If you were logged in you would never know lol, I had to see the price so I went and had to log in to view so I though I'd share :)
     
  14. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    While we're on the subject, my newest Peace acquisition. . .

    MS65 Obverse.jpg MS65 Reverse.jpg
     
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  15. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Beautiful '21 Peace Dollar. Lot's of original mint luster. Looks like a pretty nice strike too, but I can't really tell from your pictures. I want to add one to my collection, but either don't have the money when I see a MS65 or the ones up for sale are lacking something and I pass.
     
  16. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    Thanks!!! This is an upgrade for me from an MS64.

    This coin has a lot of luster and is a pretty nice strike for the year. The lower part of her hair shows the typical "flatness" for the '21.
     
  17. coins776

    coins776 no title

    AU details for both coins.
     
  18. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    So...what'd they grade?
     
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  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Several people have made reference to the 1922 proof high relief, but they also struck 35,000 high relief business strikes as well. Only one of those 1922 High relief business strikes is known today. You have to wonder if any others are floating around out there in all the 1922's still out there.
     
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