When it ain't what you say it is... how do you respond?

I completely understand what you are saying (and don't mean to intrude or 'stick my nose into business' of others), but my motives when I contact a seller is to protect not only a potential buyer, but the seller as well by avoiding potential negative feedback. I make contact typically when something is obviously a counterfeit, and more often than not it is wristwatches where I go ahead and share some information. Most times people are unaware that what they are selling is not authentic, pull the listing, and thank me for pointing it out.
That being said, maybe it is intrusive. It is not my intention to police eBay or any other venue, but just try to enlighten some sellers who may or may not know better about the object they are selling.
As an aside, I have found that when simply reporting an item to eBay, no action is typically taken. I'd also rather have the seller correct or pull their post then have eBay do it for them and respond with punitive action.

 

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You are very right. His response

But Sir It would be even if that Rim Ding wasn't there. Its a Perfect BIg E.. The reason why I said that is because I sized The E. ok

The rim ding doesn't come close to the top of the E and even if it did it wouldn't displace the E like that.

 

but, but, it has been thru "harricanes,"

what ever they are.

 

why do you always make poor excuses for sellers? stop crying about how the sellers don't know what they are doing. they know a lot more about coins than they would ever admit to.

 

Y'all need to kiss and make up.

 

Okay... tell us how the link, on its own, proves the seller a "sleaze". You’re the one claiming my post just a poor excuse, so at least have the decency to back it up.

Interesting how you jumble all sellers into one, but with all your past whining about ebay, it's not surprising; again with the seeing only what you choose and making a fool of yourself.

Now please, go bother someone else for a while.

 

Well, after another failed attempt to pass it off as a Large Letters 1830, he finally gave in and listed it for what it really is... a basic, plain 'ole 1830. Here's the result. He lost money on the resale.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1830-Capped...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

Perhaps he has, or will, accept it as a learning experience; a perceived pick that fails miserably is a good way for one to be brought back to reality. Unfortunately, there are countless people involved in this business/hobby that see only what they want to regardless of how much proof is presented to the contrary, and it is doubtful this will ever change.

 

Maybe when he went to the coin show, everyone told him the true attribution and he finally had to agree.

 

the seller is a crook, plain and simple. most sellers are crooks to some degree. just browsing though their listings is enough to see that. ebay is the home of crooks from all over the world. with the way that you defend those sellers, maybe you should change your user name to (crooksB4coins). as for your remarks about bothering, it was you who said that people are free to post comments on this forum, you don't own the threads.

 

Someone not necessarily believing that a seller is a crook does not equate to someone defending a scammer. I'm not sure how you managed to interpret booksb4coins' comments as "defending a crook". I stand by him in that you can't automatically assume that every incorrect listing is someone trying to scam a buyer out of money. And saying "most sellers are crooks to some degree" is insulting to all the people on here (myself included) and on ebay that are honorable sellers with nothing but good intentions.

 

why should you or anybody else on here be offended by my comments? if they are honest sellers, then my comments would not even apply to them anyway. there are numerous examples, far too many to list here, of crooked sellers on ebay and anywhere else. how about all of the sellers with phrases in their listings such as (high grade) and (better date) and (very rare). it is easy to see why most on here overgrade most coins, (i see that on here a lot), it is because they want to sell them for more money by (adding a couple of grades or more to the coins). here is an example of an ebay crook, a couple of years ago i bid on a coin that the seller claimed to be a very rare 1944 steel lincoln cent, the photos of the coin were just a distant blur, and could not see anything based on the photos. i won the auction for $2.09. when i received the coin it was a 1944 lincoln cent wrapped in a tinfoil type material. there are many, many, many other examples.

 

Apparently you know everything about most people on here, and that you think they purposely overgrade their coins for extra money. Well, grading is subjective, and as such, there is no true correct grading system, sorry to burst your bubble. Your accusations are for the most part unwarranted, as you have no way to accurately prove that sellers are purposely overgrading their coins to command higher prices. And the thing is, if people are educated about coins and see one that the seller has overgraded, they have the free will to not purchase it. Bottom line, grading is subjective, and a coin that is claimed to be 1 or 2 grade points higher than what YOU think it should be is not indicative of a seller with bad intentions.

Let's take a look at this situation, shall we?

"Ebay seller claims to have a very rare 1944 steel Lincoln Cent."
And why would the seller go to ebay for a coin easily worth over 10 grand instead of going to heritage? Ever heard of the phrase "if it's too good to be true, it probably is"?

"The photos of the coin were just a distant blur, and could not see anything based on the photos."
This is probably one of the funniest things I have read.
So you bid on a coin just going by the title, no less, a coin rarer than an actual 1943 copper, despite not having sufficient photographs to prove the seller's claim. Why would you take the word of the seller instead of asking for better photos and seeing actual images of the coin, especially considering that you know people use the word like "high grade,very rare, etc"? KNOW WHAT YOU ARE BUYING. This is just a case of buyer ignorance and someone who took a (in my opinion ill-calculated) risk. The fault is on you here for foolish bidding and not taking the precautions to know what you are buying. But sure, if you want to make a generalization about all ebay sellers on a situation that arose from foolish action during an action for a purported rare coin, go right ahead. Just don't expect many people to believe you.

Consider that a very inexpensive lesson.

 

Since you're often trying to peddle when not expecting others to attribute and/or valuate your coins, is it safe to assume that this includes you too?

Agreed, and with such a large pool of foolish buyers, why wouldn't it be?

Speaking of ebay, did you ever get your account reinstated, or does all this resentment stem from getting the boot?

Wow! You’re a witty, witty guy, Coins…

Now on a serious note, we’ve been through this before and it has all gone over your head, so what would be the point in doing it again. No matter the logic or reason presented, you have proven yourself incapable of participating in an intelligent discussion, or of even considering opinions that differ from your own.

It is pitiful how you are somehow able to turn “go bother someone else” into me telling you not to post in this or any other threads.

If you want to follow me around, spout drivel, and display the same ignorance as in the quoted post, please feel free.

 

a while back i noted in one of my reply comments, that it was you who followed me around on cointalk and made remarks about my comments. so much for your original thoughts. if you think that my comments are pitiful, then what about this comment of yours? http://www.cointalk.com/threads/1838-seated-dime-large-or-small-stars.237028/

 

you use a similar remark in one of your comments about me on the 1838 seated dime thread. by the way, i posted the (you don't own the threads) comment to be sarcastic about your earlier, similar comment about me.

 

I guess it's time to make some pop corn . BTW , C.B.D. I think you did the right thing by informing him of his mistake . He can either take the advice or not .

 

Yes... how dare I post a link that I thought may have been helpful to you; it is all in the link you kindly posted, so anyone wishing to judge may do so for themselves. I will not make the same mistake again.

My apologies to CDB and the others that this nonsense was, unfortunately, again forced into an otherwise interesting thread.

 

it is sickening the way that you pretend to be innocent and claim that my comment was about the link that you posted. you know very well, and i have already said that it has nothing to do with the link that you posted. read your own comment about where you say to that (i don't own the threads). i find it laughable that when you see someone else make the same comment, then you cry about it. stop crying. if any of the others on here could think for themselves instead of (herd thinking) then maybe they would see that you are the one who sees and hears only what you want to, and ignores everything else. they coddle you like a baby, books, books, o'mighty booksB4coins. booksB4coins has to rule cointalk with an ignorant, arrogant attitude. by the way, it was you that has been following me around on cointalk from the start, making your many stupid remarks about me and my comments.