Counterfeit 2005 minnesota state quarter with pictures (first post)

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by haydenwhyte, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I would support this in that it simply does not make any sense to counterfeit korters.
    AND that quality is on par with what the US Mint produces.
     
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  3. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Take a sharp object such as an X-Acto knife or even a fine flat screwdriver and scrape away the area in the reeding. You will see copper rather quickly and since you believe that itds a counterfeit and therefore not real, there is no loss.

    Heck, even if its real there is no loss since it's worth, what, 25 cents?
     
  4. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    They're interested in buying it bewcause they "believe" that its a counterfeit which it is not.
     
  5. SPP Ottawa

    SPP Ottawa Numismatist

    Is there a remote possibility that this thing is struck on a planchet intended for, or sourced from, another country?? Canadian 25c coins have the same weight, and are nickel plated steel.... just a thought...

    If it is truly counterfeit, there should be something other than the magnetic properties that can identify this coin as being so - otherwise, the simplest explanation is that the coin is plated.
     
  6. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    yes there is a remote possibly of this happening. our US planchets are outsourced and shipped to our mints , these may be a very valuable quarter. I have seen quite a few on this CT forum and lots of folks call them plated coin. I'm not so sure about that . I know a lot of state quarters are gold plated but why would someone want to plate a quarter to almost it's original color. if not on the wrong type metal then maybe they are some of the experimental pieces that was done in different types of metal .
     
  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    "IF" the weights were not identical to a regular ole quarter I might concur with you but since it isn't different, I'll politely disagree.
     
  8. superc

    superc Active Member

    Can't sell counterfeit coins. I am not sure you are even allowed to knowingly possess one. Check with the Secret Service. That being said, people plate the durndest stuff. I have 3 copper plated (dipped?) WW2 silver nickels. Why someone did that, I don't know. After 60 years though the copper is flaking off and the silver underneath is visible. LoL
     
  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The Secret Service don't care to mess with stuff like this. It's not important.
     
  10. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    There were 1999 statehood quarters made from experimental planchets. They weigh heavy. (5.9-6.5g, as opposed to mint specs of 5.65g) I believe 15 have been found so far. I think I remember reading about it on Fred Weinberg's site. They have an off color... Here's one he's offering now: http://www.fredweinberg.com/inventory/item.php?ID=6503

    I know I read that the same collector bought all of the first 15 found @ $10,000 each.
    http://coinfacts.com/quarter_dollars/50_states_quarters/delaware_experimental.htm

    More info: http://error-ref.com/state-quarters-on-an-experimental-alloy.html

    One from HA: http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=428&lotIdNo=213002

    Here's a 2000 statehood quarter: http://mikebyers.com/21151958.html

    Here is a thread right here on CT with some info that appears to have been a copy/paste from the aforementioned links: http://www.cointalk.com/threads/experimental-state-quarters.84145/
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2013
  11. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Interseting information to know but I don't think it's applicable in this case.

    " I weighed it on a scale and it read 5.8 grams. I weighed 5 other quarters all different years and they weigh the exact same amount."
     
  12. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    I agree. This coin doesn't fit the bill. I just wanted to share the info. Sounds to me like someone's scale may need calibration....
     
  13. ClarkCoins

    ClarkCoins Member

    Wow if that is fake, there's got to be tons of them out there, right? It certainly wouldn't be worth anybody's time or production cost to fake 25c unless they were going to make a whole lotta them!
     
  14. superc

    superc Active Member

    I am still stumbling over the news we now outsource our planchets. How many knew that? I am hard pressed to find a job I m less likely to want a contractor involved with than making our money.
     
  15. Lithae

    Lithae New Member


    I made an account just to reply to this. I'm not really a collector but I was going through some quarters I had and I came across a Minnesota quarter that seems to have off-coloring to it, it's much more subtle than the ones in these photos you posted, but I am still curious if it's just damage or something else.

    Unfortunately I'm having a hard time taking a photo that really shows the difference I can see in person. I checked another Minnesota one I had and the back has a similar coloring but it's barely noticeable compared to the first one I found. It's like a subtle gold tint. It's much stronger on the back then on the front as well but it's still noticeable enough where if I look closely I can tell it apart from other quarters.
    When comparing the back to a normal quarter, using the eye it looks very obvious to me.

    Here's the best picture I could take that shows it well enough, in person it might actually be a little more subtle than in the photo but like I said it was really hard to get a decent photo. Some pictures didn't pick it up well at all.

    The left one is a normal 2019 one, then to the right is the Minnesota with the most color difference, and the one below it is the other Minnesota with more subtle color (it's also more circulated).

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    Is this normal? What am I looking at exactly?
     
  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It's normal, just toning probably from the environment. This thread is from 2012. You should have started your own thread to get the responses your looking for.

    Welcome to CT.
     
  17. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Yup. I have a ton of these quarters in plastic rolls and the top quarter in each roll touching the plastic has turned golden. They are also about to make their way back into circulation.
     
  18. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Enjoy the 2012 thread. The OP coin is not fake at all. If it looks right, and weighs right and it is the correct diameter, it's real.
    As for the current post, #54, it's just normal toning.
     
  19. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    since the reeded edge is the same color as the faces, I'd first think it was plated.

    Is cheap Platinum plating magnetic ??
    you can get these quarters platinum plated too from all over the place.
     
  20. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Well to be magnetic the plating would need to be nickel. (Or steel, iron, cobalt.)
    So the logical choice is nickel. But the plating is so thin, I don't know what the reason is for the magnetic attraction. Although in other posts, members have said that the magnetic plating could attract.
    But the coin looks absolutely genuine.
    I have a counterfeit quarter and it looks terrible. The size is very close but it is slightly heavier. 5.9g And maybe made out of steel or pot metal.
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  21. Strike Vader

    Strike Vader Member

    This is very similar to one of my older forum topics, as well as another earlier one from someone else. Mine is a P mintmark Yosemite quarter that appears silver and this shouldnt exist. Like your quarter, mine also stuck to a magnet and weighs about the same, but doesnt sound silver.

    Nickel by itself is magnetic. Copper messes this all up for Nickel. If the outside has enough pure nickel due to a well centered core, a magnet would stick and it'd appear
    silver.

    I wonder what nic-a-date would do to these quarters
     
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