Inverted Star from 1935 Double Date Series

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  1. funkee

    funkee Tender, Legal

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  3. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Me too. I'd only heard of the 35 series G invert.
     
  4. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    denoms always has some nice eye candy on eBay, but jeez, he really wants top dollar for his inventory.
     
  5. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    A million OBO for a Bison note serial #1!
     
  6. Dean 295

    Dean 295 D.O.M.

    I keep looking for almost any legit error, I've found a few over the years.:rolleyes:
     
  7. JohnV

    JohnV Active Member

    Lol, the guy is asking $5,500 for it and still has the nerve to charge $8 for shipping.
     
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  8. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    This 1935 $1 invert is new to me, but there are quite a few others known. I'm aware of:

    1928 $100 K..* and L..*
    1935E $1 *..D
    1935G $1 *..G with motto (far the most common)
    1950B $20 G..*
    1950C $5 C..*

    The only one I've personally found is, oddly, not the common one:

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    I don't have it any more, I'm afraid--it was actually one of the first notes I bought when I got into collecting paper, and when I realized it was worth more than the rest of my collection combined, I sold it and bought a whole bunch of far less remarkable stuff. Not a great plan from a financial point of view; but it funded quite a few months of my collecting budget at a time when I was a broke college student, so I'm not complaining. :cool:
     
  9. MEC2

    MEC2 Enormous Member

    Keep in mind, if you return it, it keeps him from eating shipping, frankly on a $5,500 note $8 shipping is a steal.

    It's on the $50 notes that the $8 shipping eats at you. Ask me how I know...
     
  10. ClarkCoins

    ClarkCoins Member

    With the $8 shipping charge I bet he puts a stamp on an envelope lol
     
  11. funkee

    funkee Tender, Legal

    If he did that, he is asking for a world of trouble. A buyer can claim he never received it, and eBay would refund him the money. The seller would have no way to prove otherwise. eBay sellers who don't use tracking and signature confirmation are doomed.

    Anything over $250, eBay automatically suggests signature confirmation as part of the "Seller Protection". It's another $2.20 I believe, but worth it for higher priced items.
     
  12. MEC2

    MEC2 Enormous Member

    Having bought several notes from him, I can confirm it is definitely NOT just a stamp and an envelope. It is normally a USPS priority mail envelope.
     
  13. Texas John

    Texas John Collector of oddments

    While it is an "error", it's so minor and obscure that it isn't worth $5,500. More like $50.

    Error collectors like a spectacularly bungled note, not one that only is apparent upon close scrutiny.
     
  14. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    I'm guessing more like $500 to $1000. Error collectors also like *rare* types of errors, and inverted characters in the serials certainly qualify. The 1957 $1 with the inverted W in the serial (used as an M) has several dozen pieces known, and they still sell in the hundreds of dollars. This inverted star is much rarer (the only one I've ever heard of on this series, in fact).

    But, yeah, I'd be surprised if he actually got $5500 for it.
     
  15. funkee

    funkee Tender, Legal

    That seems to be the consensus among dealers, but not so much collectors. Dealers are considering the inexperienced collector who wants something flashy. But that's not really the case.

    I talked to over a dozen dealers regarding my inverted "M" as "W" note (the opposite of what Numbers is referring to). It was the 2nd one known, and came back from PMG as VF20; to date there are only 3. At the time there were 2, and no dealer wanted any part of it. HA.com estimated my note between $1,000 and $1,500. I ultimately put it up for auction because I was not getting any bids at $1,000. It sold for $567.77 out of a population of two.

    The discovery note at VF35PPQ is still for sale. It was listed on HA.com, with an estimate of $7,500 - $10,000. With a starting bid of $6,000 it never sold. Denoms picked it up from the original holder, and still has it for sale as the "discovery" note, even though there are now 3 known.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-1935F-INVERTED-M-DISCOVERY-NOTE-PCGS-35PPQ-/141000392985

    He's asking $4,250 and I don't think he'll ever get that price. Sellers need to dispose of these quick, because buyers are hesitant about dropping big bucks, knowing there's a good chance more will be found. The longer a seller holds out for big money, the likelier he/she will lose money altogether.

    I got $567 for my note. If I held out at a higher BIN with no bites, and gave in today with a no-reserve auction, I would have certainly gotten less.

    TLDR: Sell it quick.
     
  16. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    I've known denoms since the CU message boards when he was posting regularly. What everyone needs to know about his items are, yes, the BIN's are real high, but you would be surprised at the offers he will take. I made a $850 offer on a Virginia national that he had up on the bay for $1795, and he took it. And he accepted a 50% offer on a nice 1907 $20 Gold Cert. And he packages his notes real well, the $8 is an afterthought.
     
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