2006 p dime

But for real though, what year is it? how about some hi res scans.

 

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I just like coins that have secred cemetrical marks and cutmarks.

 

Did you seriously not read the title or look at the pictures? Or do you just like trolling old threads and spreading misinformation?

 

I've seen whole springs struck into error coins and you think this is impossible.. just wait its only a matter of time before the next one comes around...

These are modern days with modern errors. Time for some new discoveries...

 

Have you ever had a coin with ''CUTMARK' errors or even hardly seen one?

Probably cause its something they see only at the mint mostly and they usually get waffeled.

 

I bet this coins wieghs a bit less.

I bet the are striations the go straight down perpendicular to the cut. Not parralel with the cut like you would see if a diamond lathe or some kind of other rotary device were used. One of the cuts starts from just inside the rim wheree half of the rim was struck up fully except where the cutmarks starts. if someine just went around the rim with ''snips of anykind this could not happen and the coin would feel like a sawblade. The only way someone could have done this themselfs woud be to make two cuts into each of the ''cutmarks' at different angles then pulled the sliver of of the 'cutmark'' like a piece of pizza. then repeat this on all ''cutmarks'' on bothsides of the coin with perfect symmetry on all of the cuts and on both sides of the coin. The proof is there for this to be a plausable error but there are no good scans and and he as not said anything to indacate he excepts your PMD Opinion or anything else. You should know that you either need really high res scans/microscope/good loop pic or the coin on your desk to say for sure.
And i bet this coin wieghs a . less then 100 other dimes of that year wieghed side by side.

 

Have YOU ever heard of a cutmark error, and if so can you provide an article or a single piece of evidence that such an error exists?
See how the cuts obliterate part of the design? If this was actually an error, the letters would be struck OVER the anomaly. That is not an opinion...that is not a guess...that is a FACT. I should really end it there, as that is all the evidence one needs, but I'll humor you. In addition, the anomaly continues to the rim and displaces metal along the way. Now, if you actually knew anything about the minting process, you would know that the proto-rims occur when the planchets are run through the upset mill, and become fully formed when the coin expands into the collar die...meaning that damage to the rims would have had to be done AFTER it was struck, and thus cannot be attributed to an error in the minting process. Seriously...please do some research on your part regarding the minting process. Even with the quality of the photos, it is so obviously PMD that I honestly don't know if you are being serious in your replies. Either way, please stop spreading misinformation, as beginners may be reading these threads and will all of a sudden think that they have a super rare error when in actuality it is just a damaged coin.

What, may I ask, is your "proof" for this to be a plausible error?

 

look PRE-STRIKE-DAMAGE section from
http://www.error-ref.com/part-v--planchet-errors.html
from error ref dot com

Also I have seen feeder finger errors that have similar qualities to these cuts.

and all we know is generaly how they make coins at the mint. I bet they keep the propriatary processes and machines pretty secret at the mint as well as all of the metallurgical engineering and testing they do there. One thing they do well is cutting coins! I've even herd of them hand placing ''Damaged coins with cutmarks into the press to see how they would turn out. Maybe to test out ways to make coins harder to conterfeit for high value coins in the future

 

Can you prove that the "cutmark errors" as listed on error-ref.com resemble the coin in the original post?

Feeder finger errors have to do with marks left on the die, and they are raised anomalies whereas the ones pictured are incuse.

And where, may I ask, have you heard that? And you do realize that a mint employee purposely damaging a planchet and striking it is still damage and not an error, right?

Either way, you see, to be forgetting the big thing here...if this was indeed an error that happened pre-strike (because there would be no possibility of it occurring during strike), the design would be struck OVER it...once again, that is not an opinion, it is a fact.

 

The design part WAS struck over it. I cleary see the design that is not the question.
The coin had a lot more damage either before it went through the upsetting mill or as it went through''. Where some of the damage was either smoothed out a bit while it went through or caused in the upsetting mill the upsetting mill.
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and like i said it was probably a bit and i mean a bit or two off wieght but enough for it to read underwieght compared to any number of similar dimes without cutmarks wieghed side by side.

 

The design was in no way struck over the scratches. Check out the second 0 in the date, the I of IN GOD WE TRUST, and the T of LIBERTY. Those all have parts of them obliterated.

I suppose I should just stop commenting on this thread, as no matter how much evidence I provide, and how many people say damage, you can still make outrageous claims, even when faced with facts.

 

Im still not convinced....

What is the wieght of the coin?
Can the poster post better hi res scans 1200dpi or better?>
what other thoughts does the poster have to say?
did he already spend the coin?
does he still have it?
did he go to another forum?(wouldnt know why he might do that!)
Did he sell it?
Is he afraid to post more?
was his spirit for coin collecting crushed?
?

Could the dies have had damage to them ie by stricking the feeder fingers or other metal scraps that left this kind of damage on the dies themselfs then they figured out there was a problem and they fixed/changed the dies then tried to collect the coins struck on these dies but missed one or so. Id like to see you/anyone take 20 slivers out of a coin with perfect percision and perfect symetry on both sides of a coin with nothing but downward pressure cuase im sure all these cutmarks have downward striations and are not done with a diamond lathe which could somewhat mimick these cuts and take a little wieght off the coin or snips of any kind which would create cutmarks but would show clears signs of metal displacement and cause the coin to feel like a sawblade and would not change the weight of the coin at all.

\What happend to the poster is he still around did he go somewhere else maybe(I wouldnt know why!)

NoN Cents your point is taken but im not convinced. Theres no need for you to post any more im trying to get him to post somthing more cause im interested in modern error coins like these and i believe there is a way/ways that coins like these could be done at the mint.


So anyone know if the poster is still around/alive did he go to a different forum did he send the coin in or have it LOOKED at by anyone. did he figure anything else out does he agree with pmd ???????????anything? come on post something

 

Plus the cut on the face that comes down from the hairline looks like it has a rounded valley not a sharp endpoint like some of the other cuts.

 

That coin was cut up with cutting pliers.

As far as the profitability of Copper cent melting, the price you quoted is for pure electrolytic copper. That is the quality of copper used to determine the melt price.

A smelter would, if they could be melted legally, discount the buy prices paid for the copper alloy in Lincoln cents to a point where there would be a small profit but not nearly as much as you suggest. The alloy has to be cleaned up and that is expensive for a refiner to do.

 

That long post is not a possible scenario.

 

Cutting pliers would leave clear signs of metal displacment next to all the cuts which i see none of on this coin but like i said the pics are a little blurry but still no sight of metal displacement also ''cutting pliers would leave a sharp point protruding from the reading on all the cuts that were pinched near the rim with anytype of ''cutting pliers/'shears plus that doesnt explain why some of the cuts start in the field area and do not effect the rim at all or show metal displacment/uplifting of metal next to any of the cutmarks''. If he said the reeding feels really sharp near the cuts by the rim/reeding then i might be convinced but i bet the reeding feels and looks like any other dime and i bet it is under weight.
Take some cutting pliers to a dime and see for yourself just dont forget to post the pics.
and be carefull cause they can cut in half really easy with the right shears~

 

Non_cents laid it all out pretty clearly. I'm not going any further with this line. The coin is not an error it is damaged.

 

It's 2006...the date is damaged but the last 2 numbers are identifiable...