1803 $10 Gold. Guess The Grade.

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  1. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'm in the AU-53 group but a 55 wouldn't surprise me at all . That is one beautiful design , definitely one of my favorites . Great pick up Matt .
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I agree, though I do not mind dollars and twenties as much a the other, old ugly designs.
     
  4. WeirdFishes

    WeirdFishes Active Member

    This is a toughie... as others have said AU-58 sounds right but I could see it coming back AU-53 OR MS-61 and would not be shocked. Excellent original luster for as early as the coin is, this one honestly is kinda got me stumped. I can honestly see it coming back MS-61 or AU-58, kind of a good example of a TRUE Slider, just my 2 cent piece. She's a beauty that's for sure, regardless of what any TPG says. I'll take this opportunity to say (again) that I would be more than happy to give you 2x its melt value should u be in need of some fast cash ; ) I will hold my breath as I eagerly await your acceptance of my strong offer. LOL... all kidding aside. Killer piece Matt, I would be proud to own such a fine example.
     
  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Maybe I'm being stupid, but I don't see how in the world could this be near AU58. Look at the wear on the stars and especially the drapery! Unless it's determined to be a weak strike or the graders give it a boost for eye appeal and lack of field marks, it's XF45 to AU50, and I'm not known to be conservative. (Not trying to be contrary. I'd still love to own a piece like this).
     
  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    The few MS examples I've seen haven't had the best strikes with slight weakness in the area you noted , to me it's more about the luster and lack of hits in the field is why I said Au - 53 to 58 . Remember these were extremely large amounts of money and hardly circulated except at banks , where they were counted regularly . That's probably where it received its wear . JMHO
     
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  7. SPECS7

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  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    AU--

    and, Matt:


    I really hate you!
    ;)



    Egad, where the heck do you get this stuff?

    Great coin.
     
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  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Well guys the results are in... and I think PCGS was having a bad day. PCGS called this coin XF details improperly cleaned... I laughed at this grade and immediately cracked it out and sent it to NGC. It graded today at NGC as an no problem AU50.
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Dang? You mean I was the only one to get it right - or at least what NGC though right?

    Regardless, it is a very nice coin.
     
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  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Good one Matt , it wouldn't be right to have that beauty residing in an XF Detailed slab . Glad you sent it in to NGC .
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Well Frank said AU but didn't have the cahones to put a # next to it .
     
  14. Volante

    Volante Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised a coin of that caliber was even raw in the first place. What a beauty.
     
  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Rusty:

    Remember what they say about 'payback'!

    [Note to self: Find out who the heck "they" are.]
     
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  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And if you crack it and send it back to PCGS again it may well come back in a regular slab as AU50, Au53, or even XF45.

    The wonders of the TPGs :rolleyes:
     
  17. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Wow, what a beastie of a coin. I love the reverse clashing (at least it looks like one).
     
  18. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I think PCGS was correct
     
  19. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    If so, then that takes the fun out of it.
     
  20. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    I think AU50 is reasonable. It's always hard to judge luster from a photo. I would want to see some luster to go higher than AU50. My first impulse was XF45.

    MAGNIFICENT coin in any event ! Man-o-man I love that stuff.
     
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