GSA sealed 1882 CC Morgan

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Walan, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. Walan

    Walan New Member

    I have a GSA 1882 CC Morgan dollar in Carson City holder and original box from the 1970s
    It has crescent moon toned on the obverse and very slight toning on reverse.
    I want to know if I should send it to PCGS (who will remove it from the original holder)
    or send to another grader who will leave it in the original holder and grade it
    or leave it as is.
    Not sure of the grade my guess would be 60-64

    thx
     
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  3. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    PCGS can leave the coin in its original holder - they actually recase it in one of their 5 oz slabs so the entire GSA holder is protected, not just labeled with the grade. You have your choice of this or removing it and slabbing in the standard holder.
     
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  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    NGC slabs with the ribbon, and now has the guarantee on grade that they have for all coins--since they have been certifying GSA coins for a while, I would go the NGC route.
     
  5. Walan

    Walan New Member

    thanks
    I did not know that was an option.
    Does leaving it in the GSA holder add value to it ?
     
  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Definitely. The GSA holders have their own following, and tend to sell for a bit more than other slabbed CC Morgans.

    Here is what a GSA certified grade by NGC looks like. This is my '85cc:

    85cc rev.jpg 85cc.jpg
     
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  7. Walan

    Walan New Member

    thx
    here is photos
     

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  8. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Not worth grading. If you're going to sell it, it would probably sell for more WITHOUT a grade than with one. I'd assume that would grade MS62 tops, due to all the chatter on the cheek there.
     
  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening


    Disagree strongly. Can't tell grade from those pictures, as they aren't clear enough, and second--with that apparent toning, it is worth quite a bit more than the average GSA. Better pictures please!
     
  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I cleaned the images up a bit---here they are: No way a 62 from those pictures--at LEAST a 63 or better, with nice crescent toning on obverse. With my 40+ years of experience with Morgans, I'd say it is a nice coin!!

    IMG_0219.jpg IMG_0223.jpg
     
  11. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd say at least a 63 , Still a nice coin , I had 6 from the '70s think I paid $30 to the Gov. Wish I went for some better dates though .
     
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  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    A question , didn't they sell the toned coins in the cases without Uncirculated on them ?
     
  13. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    In some cases, yes, as toning wasn't viewed the same way it is now. However, that is a desirable coin for sure, with the toning.
     
  14. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    That coin would not have gotten into an "UNCIRCULATED" case at the Treasury Department with that toning. It's my guess that someone may have swapped it since it is not hard to do.

    Also, it is hard to tell what colors are in the toning from your photos. If it is very dark blue, almost black, closest to the rim, it is nearing the terminal state which would have a negative affect on the value.

    I don't think I'd spend the money to have it certified.

    Chris
     
  15. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I was thinking the same.

    As for the grade, the photos are far from ideal, but from what we can see, there is significant chatter in a prime focal area; the attached photo, which also is far from ideal, should better show this. As it stands, and with all things considered, this is not one that I would bother to certify.
     

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  16. josh's coins

    josh's coins Well-Known Member

    hey paying 30$ for a few CC morgans isn't a bad deal.
     
  17. Pacecar

    Pacecar Well-Known Member

    It looks to me like it's not in an "UNCIRCULATED" case. It's a nice coin to have, but not really worth it to send off for grading.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    To me, this is a coin that should be left in the holder it's in.
    I also don't see any value in having it graded, even if left in the same holder.
     
  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening


    Let's see a better set of photos and see how the toning is on the obverse. If it is dark black toning--forget grading it. If it has rainbow toning (and that might be the case from the inconclusive photo) it is worth grading it.
     
  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I agree.
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    What makes you folks think the OP coin is in an UNCIRCULATED GSA holder?
     
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