1994 Cent Reverse Error?

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  1. tommy cent

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  3. rascal

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    this looks like one of the common copper pating issues where the plating didn't adhere to the zinc core.
     
  4. tommy cent

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    Its definitely not common. explain the offset of the partial S and T from states?
     
  5. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    now where did you see a offset of a partial S and T from states. there definately is not part of any letter that I see on your coin except the letters that are supposed to be there. maybe you are thinking the bubbles in the copper plating is extra leters. the bubbles are becoming so common they now appear to be a normal part of these darn zincolns.
     
  6. tommy cent

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    Thats not a S and a T? it clearly is.. there is no way a Plating bubble
    took the form of a S and T.
     

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  7. rascal

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    sorry but that is not part of a S and T , plating bubbles can take the form of anything. I have some of these junky zinc cents that even appears to have extra numbers in the date because of the swelled out copper plating...... your coin may have been struck on a planchet that was bad to start with but no way to tell when this happened that I know of.
     
  8. tommy cent

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    You have a cent like this 1? post it so I can see it.
    that sure is not plating bubbles that form the top of the S and T.
    I emailed Wexler he told me to send it in with 5 dollars. He told me it
    looks like a double strike to him, but thanks anyway.
     
  9. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    there is no way possible for this to be a double struck coin.
    first off; if it was a rotated double strike the things you are calling extra letters would have been totally wiped out by the second strike .
    second; if this was a double struck coin parts of the letters from the first strike would be visible on top of the letters of the last strike and on about all letters and the memorial building. other than what I said the only scenario I can think of is maybe from a damaged die but highly not likely . Wexler should have known this if you sent him a photo. send the coin to him and keep us posted , maybe we can learn something new.
     
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  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Looks like a severely deteriorating die, potter wrote a article, heres it is
    Severely Deteriorating Dies Found
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    Photos © Ken Potter 2009 / Coin Courtesy of Douglas Brown

    June 06, 2009 -- Douglas Brown of Virginia sent in a 2009-P District of Columbia quarter that shows heavy die deterioration doubling on the lettering around the obverse rim. It is strongest on UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. There are die breaks on Washington's forehead and a crack above the eye.
    The reverse is also very heavily deteriorated with many die chips and breaks especially throughout the date, UNUM and letters above. Additional die chipping is seen on the piano keys and areas below furthest to the right.
    Die chips and breaks like this are considered minor and specialists essentially ignore die deterioration doubling as inherent to late die state coins. Nonetheless, coins with as many die breaks and die chips as this one are fun to find and collect even if their values are nominal.
     
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  11. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I agree with Potter , these coins from worn out dies are so common now days that folks just consider them a normal coin.
    because of the copper plating on the op's coin I still believe it may be from the copper plating bubbling up . die chips and die gouges could be the problem also , IMO there are no parts of extra letters on it.
     
  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Have you done a photo overlay? If not, can you post quality straight on images with more light thrown upon the coin?
     
  13. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    possibly dropped letter(s)? http://coinauctionshelp.com/droppedletters.html#.UllsZBQo7IV
    Personally, I can see what looks like the sections of S and T. I will even go a step farther and say that the 'gouge' under second S of STATES matches the curvature of O in OF, and that if you could do a photo overlay, as @BooksB4Coins suggested, all the anomalies appear to match up. I don't know how to do that myself, but would love to see it.
     
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  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If the OP is unable, but can provides photos, I'll do it. However, I do ask that they be clear quality images taken at the same angle and of the same size; this simply makes it both quicker and easier to do.
     
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  15. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    whats Your email so I can send the pictures to You.
     
  16. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    I was wondering what that was under the S cause it doesnt look like a plating bubble at all
     
  17. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    it lined up perfectly when I did the overlay.
     

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  18. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Still have my doubts...it doesn't look like a double struck. If that is indeed the O from OF (I don't think it is), then why is it only a sliver, and why isn't parts of the F from OF right next to it? Plus, all the other things rascal noted that would go against it being a double strike. I'd definitely like to hear what Wexler says...
     
  19. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    Im going with silentnviolent he said that might be a drop letter and told me
    to overlay it and it matches perfectly. You say its a common while everyone else thinks
    its interesting, but im going to still send it to wexler.
     
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  20. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    it matches perfectly!
     

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  21. non_cents

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    Read my posts again...nowhere in this thread did I say the anomaly in question was common.
    a "dropped letter" would also be INCUSE on the coin as opposed to raised...so if it's raised, it's not a dropped element. I'm just stating what I don't think it is. I'm definitely curious to hear what Wexler says.
     
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