1816 LARGE CENT, VARIETY N-1?

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  1. coins776

    coins776 no title

    5l.jpg 5d.jpg this coin looks like variety n-1. any opinions?
     
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  3. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Can't see much, but that curl looks over the center of the 1 in 16. Looks more like an N-7, but just my swag.
     
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  4. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Too far gone for me to tell, so I'll go along with Mark's guess.
     
  5. coins776

    coins776 no title

    i think that you might be right about the coin being n-7. thanks for the reply.
     
  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    First, let's identify the obverse. There are 7 Obverses for 1816.

    The stars and dentils on the left side are visible and the location of the (18) 1 (6) is visible. We will use these to rule out as many as possible.

    The star closest to the date on the left (star 1) is just right of the gap points directly to the middle of a dentil.

    Obv 1 Check.
    Obv 2 Just right of the gap - no.
    Obv 3 Just right of the gap - no.
    Obv 4 Check.
    Obv 5 Just left of the gap - no.
    Obv 6 Check.
    Obv 7 Almost at gap - no.

    So we've narrowed it down to Obv 1, 4 or 6.

    Next star clockwise from star 1 is star 2. It points just right of the center of a dentil.

    Obv 1 Check
    Obv 4 Check
    Obv 6 Check

    No help here.

    Next star clockwise is star 3. It points just barely right of gap between dentils.

    Obv 1 Check
    Obv 4 Point is well left of gap - no.
    Obv 6 Point is further right of gap - no. But we'll double check to be sure.

    The second 1 is just left of center of dentil.

    Obv 1 Check.
    Obv 4 1 is over a gap - no confirmed.
    Obv 6 1 is just left of gap - no confirmed.

    We have the attribution for the Obverse - Obverse 1.

    This Obverse is paired with reverses A, B and C. (UN) I is dotted with a dentil over it.
    Rev A Check.
    Rev B Gap over I - No.
    Rev C Gap over I - No.

    So it looks like N-1 to me.
     
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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Ground find?
     
  8. dave4dawg

    dave4dawg Member

    The I in UNITED is dotted by the dentil. The position of the leaf tip under D in UNITED is just above center and positions of other leaf tips to the letters in UNITED, in addition to the spacing and position of the date and stars all match up to an N-1 vs the other 1918s.
     
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  9. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

     
  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    The third sentence should read:

    The star closest to the date on the left (star 1) points directly to the middle of a dentil.

    Sometimes the features designed to help...don't.
     
  11. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Thanks for the help. I was a little uncomfortable using the leaf tip under the D because there appeared to be some damage there. But it is an excellent diagnostic point for reverse identification.
     
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  12. coins776

    coins776 no title

    thanks for all of the replies.
     
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